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    Re: Shutdown avoided, White House, Congress cheer deal

    I am still in awe how the Democrats didn't cave. I mean it seems like for the past four years they have caved on everything.

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    Re: Shutdown avoided, White House, Congress cheer deal

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Democrats didn't get everything they wanted. Neither did Republicans. But the government is not going to shut down. People on both sides can bitch about this all they want to, but it was a good compromise. In the end, Boehner did the right thing by removing the Planned Parenthood rider, and Obama agreed to more cuts than he wanted. Win-win.

    If you think this was fun, just wait until next time. It just might be hilarious. LOL.

    Article is here.
    If you call it a win-win when Congress cuts $38 billion in spending against a $14 trillion deficit, you are delusional.
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    Re: Shutdown avoided, White House, Congress cheer deal

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    If you call it a win-win when Congress cuts $38 billion in spending against a $14 trillion deficit, you are delusional.
    This country is sinking and sinking fast and no one gives a sh!t as long as they get their free stuff. Wait until the U.S. Dollar because worthless because it is taken off the world's standard currency, then we will feel the pain overnight. After this we can listen to our hack politicians saying would've. should've and could've along with finger pointing.

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    Re: Shutdown avoided, White House, Congress cheer deal

    The democrats lost again and they lost because they resort to their absurd horror threats. They want to kill women blahblah.
    Cutting Planned Parenthood was the absolute right thing to do, it serves no govt purpose than to empty our pockets.

    Obama taking credit for spending cuts is laughable.
    Next year is when the big battle comes and I will be just as against Income tax cuts for the richest americans and corporations at the expense of the middle class as I am now...

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    Re: Shutdown avoided, White House, Congress cheer deal

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    The democrats lost again and they lost because they resort to their absurd horror threats. They want to kill women blahblah.
    Cutting Planned Parenthood was the absolute right thing to do, it serves no govt purpose than to empty our pockets.

    Obama taking credit for spending cuts is laughable.
    Next year is when the big battle comes and I will be just as against Income tax cuts for the richest americans and corporations at the expense of the middle class as I am now...
    I am against supporting the leviathan we have now for our government, and it's because of this is why the middle class is pitted against all other classes...we are alone in this fight. A flat and fair tax is the answer along with putting the beast back on the box where it belongs.

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    Re: Shutdown avoided, White House, Congress cheer deal

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    If you call it a win-win when Congress cuts $38 billion in spending against a $14 trillion deficit, you are delusional.
    you have to start somewhere.

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    Re: Shutdown avoided, White House, Congress cheer deal

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Democrats didn't get everything they wanted. Neither did Republicans. But the government is not going to shut down. People on both sides can bitch about this all they want to, but it was a good compromise. In the end, Boehner did the right thing by removing the Planned Parenthood rider, and Obama agreed to more cuts than he wanted. Win-win.

    If you think this was fun, just wait until next time. It just might be hilarious. LOL.

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    The rider to stop the EPA from regulating CO2 emissions would have violated a 2007 supreme court decision.

    All the Tea Party newbies might want to take a civics class...

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    Re: Shutdown avoided, White House, Congress cheer deal

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    The rider to stop the EPA from regulating CO2 emissions would have violated a 2007 supreme court decision.

    All the Tea Party newbies might want to take a civics class...
    The EPA was formed by Nixon's executive order making it illegal for this organization to make any law, now what about civics.

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    Re: Shutdown avoided, White House, Congress cheer deal

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    The EPA was formed by Nixon's executive order making it illegal for this organization to make any law, now what about civics.
    The didn't make the law. They just enforce it.

    It's called the Clean Air Act. They don't teach that on Fox News.

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    Re: Shutdown avoided, White House, Congress cheer deal

    National Debt Increased by 75% under Bush:
    2001 - $5.871 trillion
    2008 - $10.640 trillion

    National Debt Increased 25% Under Obama:
    Jan 31st 2009 = $10.569-Trillion
    Jan 31st 2011 = $14.131-Trillion

    But of the $3.56-trillion increase, 98% was carry over from Bush programs:
    Bush: $910-billion = Interest on Debt 2009/2011
    Bush: $360-billion = Iraq War Spending 2009/2011
    Bush: $319-billion = TARP bailout Balance from 2008 (as of May 2010)
    Bush: $419-billion = Bush Recession Caused Drop in taxes
    Bush: $190-billion = Bush Medicare Drug Program 2009/2011
    Bush: $211-billion = Bush Meicare Part-D 2009/2011
    Bush: $771-billion = Bush Tax Cuts 2009/2011

    Bush's contributions:
    2001 to 2008: $4.769-trillion
    2009 to 2010: $3.181-trillion
    Total: $7.950-trillion
    Increase Since 2001 = $14.131 - $5.871 = $8.26-Trillion
    Bush's contribution: $7.950-trillion / $8.26-Trillion = 96%

    Obama only contribution: $580-billion = Stimulus Spending (as of Dec 2010).
    Increase caused By Bush's Programs: 96%
    Increase caused by Obama's Programs: 4%

    And lets not forget that Bush inherited a massive surplus from Clinton, whereas Obama inherited Bush's economic crater. It's been decades since Conservatives have been fiscally conservative, now they're just social conservatives. Harper is just a bad as Bush.

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