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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    It happens all the time its UNDERREPORTED by the liberal press...abortion is over used and abused in this country because women are encouraged to abort because theres so many people making millions of taxpayer bucks off it.
    OK. Still not murder.
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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    1) It is an appeal to emotion. It's not murder, no matter how you slice it. I am uninterested if that is how you see it. It is presenting a logical fallacy and I will confront anyone I see who uses it. I've done it before to Chuz Life and Hicup. You want to use the word "kill", and you will have no problem with me. Murder is incorrect.

    2) I use the term "anti-choice" specifically when I see someone posting the term "pro-abortion". They are both idiot terms and do not reflect how each side presents themselves. Someone in this thread used the term. I will back off from continuing to use MY idiot term as a response until I see it again.

    Slicing the unborn is one form of murder, yes. But typically the unborn baby is murdered using a saline injection, or later, gruesomely dismembered.

    And just think, the slain child was not only not accused of a crime, he didn't get a trial.

    Since the unborn child is 100% human it is incorrect to claim he was not murdered when his death is the result of deliberate action to kill him.

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    Slicing the unborn is one form of murder, yes. But typically the unborn baby is murdered using a saline injection, or later, gruesomely dismembered.

    And just think, the slain child was not only not accused of a crime, he didn't get a trial.

    Since the unborn child is 100% human it is incorrect to claim he was not murdered when his death is the result of deliberate action to kill him.
    Its hard for me to understand Captain Courtesy saying its not murder...when if you left the fetus alone in a few weeks it would be bubbly little baby boy or girl...

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    1) It is an appeal to emotion. It's not murder, no matter how you slice it. I am uninterested if that is how you see it. It is presenting a logical fallacy and I will confront anyone I see who uses it. I've done it before to Chuz Life and Hicup. You want to use the word "kill", and you will have no problem with me. Murder is incorrect.
    I don't use the word "murder" because that's a legal definition that vary's from state to state and my views are not so fluid. Could you elaborate on what exactly you find so "uninteresting"? I hoping you don't mean it the way it sounds.

    2) I use the term "anti-choice" specifically when I see someone posting the term "pro-abortion". They are both idiot terms and do not reflect how each side presents themselves. Someone in this thread used the term. I will back off from continuing to use MY idiot term as a response until I see it again.
    I've asked this before, if abortion is a right, then why is being called "pro-abortion" such a bad thing, especially if you really don't believe a life is destroyed? Aren't rights good things?
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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    Slicing the unborn is one form of murder, yes. But typically the unborn baby is murdered using a saline injection, or later, gruesomely dismembered.

    And just think, the slain child was not only not accused of a crime, he didn't get a trial.

    Since the unborn child is 100% human it is incorrect to claim he was not murdered when his death is the result of deliberate action to kill him.
    Nope. Not murder. Go look up the term in the dictionary and then come back and thank CaptainCourtesy for correcting you.
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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Its hard for me to understand Captain Courtesy saying its not murder...when if you left the fetus alone in a few weeks it would be bubbly little baby boy or girl...
    Murder is a legal term denoting a crime. Abortion is not a crime. If you want to call it "killing" be my guest. You will have no argument from me with that term.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    I am going to bail from this thread for now, but I just want the record to show that I did not use the term "pro-abortion"...
    I didn't think you had, either.
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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    I’m pro choice but against any kind of federal funding for abortions. I also think Planned Parenthood can get the money it needs to do what it does without fed money.

    If the OP considers me a terrorist for such views, it speaks volumes about the OP.


    The Democrats, shortly after the Tucson shooting, called for more civil, less vitriolic discussions/debates but they refuse to hold themselves to the same standard they seek to impose upon others.

    Just because I don’t want the government paying for crap people should be responsible enough to take care of on their own that makes me a terrorist now?

    Do the republicans really want to starve old people as Pelosi says? Do Republicans really want to deny medical care to women as Reid says?

    Get real!
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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I don't use the word "murder" because that's a legal definition that vary's from state to state and my views are not so fluid. Could you elaborate on what exactly you find so "uninteresting"? I hoping you don't mean it the way it sounds.
    I'm glad that you do not use the term, as it is inaccurate. What I find uninteresting is why someone would choose to use an incorrect term. It's incorrect. Only reason I can think of is to appeal to emotion. I find THAT uninteresting. You want to call it "killing" and your views will have my attention.

    I've asked this before, if abortion is a right, then why is being called "pro-abortion" such a bad thing, especially if you really don't believe a life is destroyed? Aren't rights good things?
    It is incorrect terminology in referring to a position. I am pro-choice. That does not mean I advocate abortion. I advocate choice.

    It would be the same as saying that you are anti-choice. Your position removes choice from the pregnancy, correct? See how silly the argument is?
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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I'm not talking about acts that are actually illegal. These WOULD be considered murders, as they are being done during the 3rd trimester, something that I believe is illegal. I'm talking about abortions that are legal. They are not murder.
    Third trimester abortions may be illegal to perform but they're not defined as murder either. Most states define person as someone who was born and is alive.
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