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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    As far as I am concerned so long as it is providing people with abortions it should not get government money at all. One third of its budget comes from government money. Maybe removing them from the spigot will cause them to evaluate whether even a business as lucrative as slaughtering babies is worth the loss of hundreds of millions of dollars.
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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    When you say stupid **** like this, you give ammo that some on the right will try and use against all of us. It will fail, but still. Advocating for what you believe in is not terrorism.
    Hes from San Francisco represented by tunacan Nan Pelosi I would expect nothing less lol...shrug that kind of stuff doesnt effect me and It certainly doesnt reflect on other liberals and their position as far as im concerned anyway...

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Wrong, abortion doctors and clinics commit murder all the time and get away with it for YEARS.

    West Philadelphia abortion doctor Kermit Gosnell routinely delivered live babies in the third trimester of pregnancy, then murdered them by "sticking scissors into the back of the baby's neck and cutting the spinal cord," according to the Philadelphia District Attorney.

    Gruesome details in report on Philadelphia abortion doctor | Philadelphia Inquirer | 01/19/2011

    An abortion doctor who catered to minorities, immigrants and poor women was charged with eight counts of murder in the deaths of a patient and seven babies who were born alive and then killed with scissors, prosecutors said Wednesday.

    Dr. Kermit Gosnell, 69, made millions of dollars over 30 years, performing as many illegal, late-term abortions as he could, prosecutors said. State regulators ignored complaints about him and failed to visit or inspect his clinic since 1993, but no charges were warranted against them, District Attorney Seth Williams said.

    Philadelphia Abortion Doctor Charged With 8 Counts of Murder - FoxNews.com
    I'm not pro-choice or pro-abortion, but it seems that those individuals have been made to answer for their actions and what they did was clearly violated the bounds of what is considered a legal abortion.
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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Well, to be fair, it could be called murder...if murder didn't have the meaning it does have.
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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    As far as I am concerned so long as it is providing people with abortions it should not get government money at all. One third of its budget comes from government money. Maybe removing them from the spigot will cause them to evaluate whether even a business as lucrative as slaughtering babies is worth the loss of hundreds of millions of dollars.
    Disagree. They're funding should not be pulled. They should be restricted from using that funding for abortions... this I would support.
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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Well, to be fair, it could be called murder...if murder didn't have the meaning it does have.
    And steak could be called fencing... if steak didn't have the meaning that it does have.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
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    2) I use the term "anti-choice" specifically when I see someone posting the term "pro-abortion". They are both idiot terms and do not reflect how each side presents themselves. Someone in this thread used the term. I will back off from continuing to use MY idiot term as a response until I see it again.
    I am going to bail from this thread for now, but I just want the record to show that I did not use the term "pro-abortion"...
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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    What am I supposed to say? That life isn't always golden? That being born and being allowed to live your life no matter how bad is better than being put down? What am I supposed to say here that would please you?
    The problem here is you apply logic where none exist for the life you strive to protect. In other words, the unborn child has no idea how "its" life will turn out. It has no choices at this early stage of its as to how to survive, provide for nor protect itself. Nor does it know how to make its way through life on its own. The child, at the very least, is completely dependent on atleast the one who bore it - the mother. You'd have a stronger argument if you had said, "That the newborn child is given a chance to survive and have a life, good or bad..."

    But yes to your original statement. That's pretty much what you should have said because it atleast would indicate you are considerate and compassionate towards the plight of both the parent (mother at a minimum) and the unborn child. You would atleast be arguing to give life a chance but under the proper arguable conditions.

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    I am going to bail from this thread for now, but I just want the record to show that I did not use the term "pro-abortion"...
    You are correct... and I retract from addressing that towards you. I apologize. I have to go back and see who did.

    Edit: should have known. It was jamesrage.
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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I'm not talking about acts that are actually illegal. These WOULD be considered murders, as they are being done during the 3rd trimester, something that I believe is illegal. I'm talking about abortions that are legal. They are not murder.
    It happens all the time its UNDERREPORTED by the liberal press...abortion is over used and abused in this country because women are encouraged to abort because theres so many people making millions of taxpayer bucks off it.

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