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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    the brain doesn't start up "the opposite" of how it shuts down. thw reasons behind it starting up are not the same as shutting down the human brain is not a light bulb attached to a switch.
    what "reasons" are those again? there are no "reasons" for either it just happens it starts it stops whats the BIG difference again?

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by majora$$hole View Post
    what "reasons" are those again? there are no "reasons" for either it just happens it starts it stops whats the BIG difference again?
    the brain "fires up" as the cells form. this occurs at slightly different rates per individual. the brain "shuts down" due to myriad reasons to complex to list. its not just on and off....its not that simple.
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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by majora$$hole View Post
    okay so then do you think it is still a living human when the brain no longer functions? ie: "brain death" which is the definition for death in 48 states. or do you think someone isn't dead until all living human cells have fully decomposed?
    that is a different question.

    i think r.v.w. states that until the end of the first trimester yes pretty much anything goes. after that it's pretty much you need a "good" excuse. am i wrong here?
    So who says that the court is infallible?

    i think if abortion is being used as a contraception then the taxpayers should not pay for it.
    Then you should be pretty mad right now.

    i say the taxpayer should cover 3 abortions for any woman who NEEDS them if she has had 5 abortions and is going in for her sixth then she should pay for it.
    Which is it? Should the taxpayer pay for contraceptive abortions or not?

    she will find out really fast that there are cheaper less painfull forms of contraception out there that she should be using.
    Great, so a couple of murders and we will know that its wrong?

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    that is a different question.



    So who says that the court is infallible?



    Then you should be pretty mad right now.



    Which is it? Should the taxpayer pay for contraceptive abortions or not?



    Great, so a couple of murders and we will know that its wrong?

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    1. not a different question it is "the question" imo.
    2. i never said it was infallible in fact i'm trying to simplify the whole thing so there is less of a chance for error.
    3. i don't get "mad".
    4. can you not read?
    5. it's not murder according to the law.
    you got any thing else?

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by majora$$hole View Post
    1. not a different question it is "the question" imo.
    Sure it is. The 'brain dead' decision many families of brain stem patients make is about quality of life issues. The decision made by the pregnant woman that couldn't be bothered to make the right contraceptive decision in the heat of the moment.

    2. i never said it was infallible in fact i'm trying to simplify the whole thing so there is less of a chance for error.
    So, do you think that the SC made an error in their decision then?

    3. i don't get "mad".
    I think you know what I meant.

    4. can you not read?
    What'd I miss? In one sentence you said that you don't think that the taxpayer should fund abortions, in the very next you said that they should up to 3 times...Which is it?

    5. it's not murder according to the law.
    you got any thing else?
    The laws conflict.

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Sure it is. The 'brain dead' decision many families of brain stem patients make is about quality of life issues. The decision made by the pregnant woman that couldn't be bothered to make the right contraceptive decision in the heat of the moment.



    So, do you think that the SC made an error in their decision then?



    I think you know what I meant.



    What'd I miss? In one sentence you said that you don't think that the taxpayer should fund abortions, in the very next you said that they should up to 3 times...Which is it?



    The laws conflict.

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    1.) you are mixing "brain dead" and "vegitative state" two different things the law is CLEAR about when someone is dead.
    2.) i think the law should pretty much stay the way it is now with MY clarification/cooperation of the laws conserning when someone is LEGALLY alive and dead.
    3.) no, i didn't get mad that the current law helps my arguement.
    4.) i said tax payers should cover the bill when a women gets a "needed" (which you agree that there are conditions in which they are appropriate)abortion 3 times seems like plenty to me after that it is clear she is using it for contriception at which point i think the tax payer is no longer liable.
    5.) change the law. good luck with that.

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    the brain "fires up" as the cells form. this occurs at slightly different rates per individual. the brain "shuts down" due to myriad reasons to complex to list. its not just on and off....its not that simple.
    no the brain can only "fire up" when there is a brain to fire up. the brain "shuts down" when it dies. it is just on and off that simple. i still fail to see this complexity you speak of.

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

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    What makes you think every woman who receives abortion services from Planned Parenthood are "deadbeats" - code word for poor minorities (Blacks and Histpanics)? Is it possible that many of these women come from decent, hard working families who just made poor choices? Why does every woman who has an abortion have to be moochers off the goverment's doles?



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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by majora$$hole View Post
    no the brain can only "fire up" when there is a brain to fire up. the brain "shuts down" when it dies. it is just on and off that simple. i still fail to see this complexity you speak of.
    you fail to see it because you are intent on oversimplifieng the most complex organ in the human body. not to mention the least understood.
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