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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So you wouod charge them with murder of the baby only for the emotional appeal, huh?
    I said it wasn't for any rational reason.

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Is it just the sub-literates who want to abort babies?

    I've mentioned "emotional appeal" several times! Haven't you noticed?

    Focus!
    My comment was in response to this:
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    There is no real reasons why there shouldn't be a display of emotions when human life is involved. Would the Leftists really prefer that no emotion was involved in the deaths of babies? Or the elderly, infirm, the handicapped or people otherwise dependent on our help??
    You're talking about emotion here, not emotional appeals. Like I said, focus.

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    My comment was in response to this:


    You're talking about emotion here, not emotional appeals. Like I said, focus.
    And my response still applies! It's not up to you to decide what is an applicable response is or choose whether I want to say "emotion", "emotional" or "emotional appeal". It's all related. Much more so than a comatose person and a baby in the womb, by the way.

    There should have been some notification if you've been appointed to control the dialogue on these boards and how others choose to respond.

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    And my response still applies! It's not up to you to decide what is an applicable response is or choose whether I want to say "emotion", "emotional" or "emotional appeal". It's all related. Much more so than a comatose person and a baby in the womb, by the way.

    There should have been some notification if you've been appointed to control the dialogue on these boards and how others choose to respond.
    Actually this comment makes no sense in this conversation:
    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    There is no real reasons why there shouldn't be a display of emotions when human life is involved. Would the Leftists really prefer that no emotion was involved in the deaths of babies? Or the elderly, infirm, the handicapped or people otherwise dependent on our help??
    Because what you're saying is that when I (and others) point out your (and others) emotional appeals we are trying to take out emotion from the entire abortion issue. No one has suggested that at all - we have not suggested that you take out emotion, we have suggested that you take out emotional appeals. Those are two different things. Focus.

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    I said it wasn't for any rational reason.
    So it was just to make you feel good? A little more upbeat? Let a little sunshine into your life?

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So it was just to make you feel good? A little more upbeat? Let a little sunshine into your life?
    Yep, pretty much. It's a bad reason to make a decision isn't it?

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Actually this comment makes no sense in this conversation:


    Because what you're saying is that when I (and others) point out your (and others) emotional appeals we are trying to take out emotion from the entire abortion issue. No one has suggested that at all - we have not suggested that you take out emotion, we have suggested that you take out emotional appeals. Those are two different things. Focus.
    Perhaps, and I say this only to examine the possibilities, you don't have any real insight or understanding as to what is being said.

    That's something you might want to consider.

    In the meanwhile, why not respond to what is written and not try to determine the direction the debate takes, as long as it remains on track.

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Yep, pretty much. It's a bad reason to make a decision isn't it?
    Not really. Human beings often make decisions based on their emotions. Some of these decisions have positive consequences and others negative.

    It's all part of life's rich pageantry.

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Perhaps, and I say this only to examine the possibilities, you don't have any real insight or understanding as to what is being said.

    That's something you might want to consider.

    In the meanwhile, why not respond to what is written and not try to determine the direction the debate takes, as long as it remains on track.
    By making this comment, you are saying that "Leftists" would prefer to remove emotion from the entire situation and discussion of abortion. Nobody has argued that and I'm pretty sure no one believes that, so what was the purpose of that comment. If I have no insight into the meaning of this comment - explain it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    There is no real reasons why there shouldn't be a display of emotions when human life is involved. Would the Leftists really prefer that no emotion was involved in the deaths of babies? Or the elderly, infirm, the handicapped or people otherwise dependent on our help??

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Not really. Human beings often make decisions based on their emotions. Some of these decisions have positive consequences and others negative.

    It's all part of life's rich pageantry.
    Well, in general, I argue that we should not judge law and punishment based on emotion - so from my perspective, it would be a pretty mad reason to make such a decision. But I agree that emotion based decisions are sometimes good, particularly in one's personal life.

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