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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    You realize this is not something where there is proof right? Opinions on when this occurs are all over the place

    This is shown the fact that I can find literature that says something different. All depending on what aspects of development we want to look at.

    PERSONHOOD---when does a fetus become a person?
    It's really astonishing to read the inventive lengths and mental gymnastics people will go to in order to justify tearing babies from their mother's womb. They seem to just want those babies outta there and any reason will do. In fact they will even insist that some arguments, such as emotional appeal", be disallowed.

    The elderly will be next on their agenda.

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    It depends on the context. If I show pictures from the holocaust in response to someone saying that US entry into wwii was a complex decision then I would be guilty of emotional appeal.
    There should be no guilt involved in an appeal against war. All aspects must be looked at. Ultimately decisions will be made as to the risk to human life and future security of the nation and its people, despite any emotional appeals and fears.

    A lack of emotion in the taking of a human life does not present "logic", Instead it suggests much darker areas of the human soul.

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It's really astonishing to read the inventive lengths and mental gymnastics people will go to in order to justify tearing babies from their mother's womb. They seem to just want those babies outta there and any reason will do. In fact they will even insist that some arguments, such as emotional appeal", be disallowed.

    The elderly will be next on their agenda.

    That is already there, check out that 2,700 page monstrosity called Obamacare.

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It's really astonishing to read the inventive lengths and mental gymnastics people will go to in order to justify tearing babies from their mother's womb. They seem to just want those babies outta there and any reason will do. In fact they will even insist that some arguments, such as emotional appeal", be disallowed.

    The elderly will be next on their agenda.
    The elderly cannot fit in a womb.

    Also I see you are giving up trying to debate me with fact if you are going the "mental gymnastics route" which really means "this person didn't agree with me gosh darnit and I am out of ammo!"
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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    The elderly cannot fit in a womb.
    Disgusting humor.

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    That is already there, check out that 2,700 page monstrosity called Obamacare.

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    Perhaps Planned Parenthood will be introducing more "Death Panels" than the ones they have already. But with these involved in plans to get rid of elderly parents.

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    I wasn't taking what you said out of context at all. Someone said a fetus is human your reply was to say that so is a person in an irreversible coma. The notion that you were just saying they are both human with no intended implications beyond that is just an absurd and transparent.
    The "implications" are exactly what I stated. They are both unconscious and human. One exists before consciousness and one exists after - they're pretty similar. I have said all of this. They're is no further implication.

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Disgusting humor.

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    Yeah, its all gooey in there.

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    There should be no guilt involved in an appeal against war. All aspects must be looked at. Ultimately decisions will be made as to the risk to human life and future security of the nation and its people, despite any emotional appeals and fears.

    A lack of emotion in the taking of a human life does not present "logic", Instead it suggests much darker areas of the human soul.
    Eh...all of the factors around abortion should be considered as well.

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    The "implications" are exactly what I stated. They are both unconscious and human. One exists before consciousness and one exists after - they're pretty similar. I have said all of this. They're is no further implication.
    "Pretty similar" is a stretch not worthy of discussion. Best stick to the facts rather than fooling with failed analogies.

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