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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    The grey area doesn't have a "purpose". The grey area is a reality that we have named. The entire field of ethics is devoted to this.
    LOL..uh huh...sure. The purpose of the grey area is to justify decisions that are not 100% compliant with one's moral values.
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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    LOL..uh huh...sure. The purpose of the grey area is to justify decisions that are not 100% compliant with one's moral values.
    Okay. I see I'm dealing with someone who has a problem with information and reality. This is not conducive to debate.

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    If I call a goat a dog, it's still a goat. The regimes acted as fascist regimes regardless of what they called themselves.
    That they may have acted like a Fascist regime (though its not clear which regime you're referring to) does not make them a Fascist regime, They were Communists, they were referred to as Communists, they called themselves Communists and had you called them Fascists, the Leftists of the day would have been deeply insulted and might well have become violent.

    This is why Communism doesn't work in it's purest form... or socialism... or libertarianism.
    Yes, I know it doesn't work, though the Leftists killed many millions in trying. They still often encourage scumballs like Fidel Castro to hang in there and continue "the revolution".
    Nothing more than ridiculous rightwing propaganda. There is nothing wrong with Communism.
    Even if individual rights, freedoms, and human life is not important Communism would still not have any value. It is pointless.
    Problem is, there has never been a truely communistic society.
    But they killed many millions trying.
    Always turns to fascism... a rightwing ideology.
    Yep. Communism is now right wing, just as I predicted to my wife, Denial is the only way the Leftists can ever feel good about themselves.

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    Like I said, abortion is not the only thing on their agenda.
    No, but plenty of people think it's enough. Perhaps Leftists can volunteer some of their time and money to the cause.
    Oh, I'm sure the Reps will be all for it!
    There are many Ammans, Priests and Ministers, among other religions, who might volunteer for free. And of course there are many other counselors who would provide free advice.
    Yeah, like that humongous "Pet program" where we help other countries become "Democratic"?
    Sure, that among others.

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    No, but plenty of people think it's enough. Perhaps Leftists can volunteer some of their time and money to the cause.
    For sure, because the right will be too busy kissing corporate butt.


    There are many Ammans, Priests and Ministers, among other religions, who might volunteer for free. And of course there are many other counselors who would provide free advice.
    Of course, we want everything for free, after all, we need money left over so we can give the uber wealthy more tax cuts and more tax shelters - then maybe someday (it hasn't happened yet), we will see some of it trickle down!


    Sure, that among others.
    Of course, because we all know how much righties love Muslims - and there is no doubt that Muslims love us, too!



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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    I replied because it is apparent that you didn't get it when I first told you.

    You have a way of making everything personal, and immediately tell people they are full of whatever. You are welcome to your opinion about me, but that doesn't mean that my assumption about the Republican party is wrong. The Party is going all out for the "fetus" while throwing the people under the bus. What part of that don't you get?

    And, don't bother replying, because I won't be responding to your comments after this.
    You've been shown over and over again that differences in ideology does not mean the the GOP doesn't care about "the poor people" after they are born. Despite this, you continue with your childish, and blatantly false, statements.
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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Actually, in claiming that people would allow babies to starve, you said a great deal about yourself,
    And what was that? You do not think there are starving children here in the U.S.A. and you don't think there will be a lot more if we take away a womans right? If so? You are fooling yourself boy.
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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    For sure, because the right will be too busy kissing corporate butt.
    Actually BHO gave the corporations a great deal of public money but I agree that it should have never happened.


    Of course, we want everything for free, after all, we need money left over so we can give the uber wealthy more tax cuts and more tax shelters - then maybe someday (it hasn't happened yet), we will see some of it trickle down!
    I've never waited for anything to "trickle down", but suit yourself.

    Of course, because we all know how much righties love Muslims - and there is no doubt that Muslims love us, too!
    I thought it was the Left who seamlessly supported Muslims rights, women's rights and Gay rights, but you seem to know what you're talking about.

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Actually BHO gave the corporations a great deal of public money but I agree that it should have never happened.
    Obama didn't "give" corporations a great deal of public money, on the other hand:

    Last month, the entire House Republican caucus voted to defend corporate welfare for Big Oil, stopping any attempt to remove billions of dollars of subsidies for the industry. Many of these companies exploit the tax code to pay very little in taxes, with companies like Exxon Mobil paying absolutely nothing in federal corporate income taxes in 2009.
    GOP Rep. Posey mocks critics of Big Oil: “Those evil oil companies, the answer to all our problems is to tax them more.” « Climate Progress




    I've never waited for anything to "trickle down", but suit yourself.
    Maybe you are the only one on the right who knows it ain't coming?


    I thought it was the Left who seamlessly supported Muslims rights, women's rights and Gay rights, but you seem to know what you're talking about.
    The left tries to support everyone's rights. The right only supports your rights if you are a fetus or uber wealthy.



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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That they may have acted like a Fascist regime (though its not clear which regime you're referring to) does not make them a Fascist regime, They were Communists, they were referred to as Communists, they called themselves Communists and had you called them Fascists, the Leftists of the day would have been deeply insulted and might well have become violent.
    You can call a goat a dog all day. It's still a goat. I understand that this is in direct opposition to your inflexible rightwing ideology, but, you are wrong. I've demonstrated it clearly. Your lack of acceptance doesn't alter that, though I'm sure you'd want to.

    Yes, I know it doesn't work, though the Leftists killed many millions in trying. They still often encourage scumballs like Fidel Castro to hang in there and continue "the revolution".
    Fascist... right wingers, killed millions trying. Let me know when you understand what we are actually discussing.


    Even if individual rights, freedoms, and human life is not important Communism would still not have any value. It is pointless.
    Demonstrating that you do not have any knowledge of the ideology.


    But they killed many millions trying.
    No, fascists did.


    Yep. Communism is now right wing, just as I predicted to my wife, Denial is the only way the Leftists can ever feel good about themselves.
    Yet another example of right wing denial. Communism is a left wing ideology. Everytime it has been attempted, it turns to fascism... a right wing ideology. Either you are in denial about this, or you do not understand Communism, fascism, and how societies that have tried Communism have failed and the direction they have then gone. I would be happy to educate you on this, but it seems to me that you are so stuck in your right wing inflexibility, that any attempt would be for naught.
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