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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    That is so comical, considering the fact that the Republican party goes all out for "fetuses" but doesn't give a damn about them once they are born.
    How many times do you have to be told how immature, false, and completely unfounded that statement is?
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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

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    "In the help it provides"? Is that a euphemism for abortion?
    Like I said, abortion is not the only thing on their agenda.


    Perhaps there could be counseling where a profit motive is not involved.
    Oh, I'm sure the Reps will be all for it!


    Yes, each time it's just a few million here or a few billion there but soon it all begins to add up. Each group wants their pet projects to continue but want to cut the pet programs of others. Perhaps some real leadership is required.
    Yeah, like that humongous "Pet program" where we help other countries become "Democratic"?



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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    LOL...yep...that's the popular definition, but I went beyond that. I went into the reason people created the term "grey area".
    You didn't go "beyond" anything. You went into making up things. I'm not interested.

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

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    How many times do you have to be told how immature, false, and completely unfounded that statement is?
    How many times do you have to be told that "I am ignoring your comments"?



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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    How many times do you have to be told that "I am ignoring your comments"?
    You just replied, what is is that you are ignoring?

    You have a blindly partisan bias against Republicans and combined with your lack of integrity, allows you to cast all sorts of falsehoods on the GOP. You're dishonest. Accept it.
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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

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    No. What it became was not Communism. It was fascism. It was aided and abetted by those of greed, both leftists AND rightists. Denying this is denying reality.
    Well, they called it Communism at the time, or Socialism, but calling Communism "Fascism" is rather rare. In fact this might be the first time I've heard that.

    Greed, huh? And it came as a surprise that people wanted more than what they had at the time? I think you'll find that that condition has existed for many generations and is stil with us today. In fact people are still asking the government for more, despite there being nothing in the kitty. That's greed..

    Nazi's hated Communists long before the war was over. It is you that is practicing revisionism. Right wingers try to turn anything "evil" into something "leftist". Nothing more than silly propaganda.
    The existence of Communism and its horrors is not "propaganda", nor is the fact that they were supported by Leftists everywhere. It is all well documented. And that is clear to right wingers, middle of the roaders, and former left wingers. Its only the committed Leftists who still cling to the ridiculous notion that Communism was some sort of noble enterprise rather than the international tragedy it really was.

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    You just replied, what is is that you are ignoring?

    You have a blindly partisan bias against Republicans and combined with your lack of integrity, allows you to cast all sorts of falsehoods on the GOP. You're dishonest. Accept it.

    I replied because it is apparent that you didn't get it when I first told you.

    You have a way of making everything personal, and immediately tell people they are full of whatever. You are welcome to your opinion about me, but that doesn't mean that my assumption about the Republican party is wrong. The Party is going all out for the "fetus" while throwing the people under the bus. What part of that don't you get?

    And, don't bother replying, because I won't be responding to your comments after this.



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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    You didn't go "beyond" anything. You went into making up things. I'm not interested.
    I didn't make anything up. The whole purpose of the grey area is to justify a decision that isn't 100% compliant with one's moral values.
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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    I didn't make anything up. The whole purpose of the grey area is to justify a decision that isn't 100% compliant with one's moral values.
    The grey area doesn't have a "purpose". The grey area is a reality that we have named. The entire field of ethics is devoted to this.
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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

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    Well, they called it Communism at the time, or Socialism, but calling Communism "Fascism" is rather rare. In fact this might be the first time I've heard that.
    If I call a goat a dog, it's still a goat. The regimes acted as fascist regimes regardless of what they called themselves.

    Greed, huh? And it came as a surprise that people wanted more than what they had at the time? I think you'll find that that condition has existed for many generations and is stil with us today. In fact people are still asking the government for more, despite there being nothing in the kitty. That's greed..
    This is why Communism doesn't work in it's purest form... or socialism... or libertarianism.

    The existence of Communism and its horrors is not "propaganda", nor is the fact that they were supported by Leftists everywhere. It is all well documented. And that is clear to right wingers, middle of the roaders, and former left wingers. Its only the committed Leftists who still cling to the ridiculous notion that Communism was some sort of noble enterprise rather than the international tragedy it really was.
    Nothing more than ridiculous rightwing propaganda. There is nothing wrong with Communism. Problem is, there has never been a truely communistic society. Always turns to fascism... a rightwing ideology.
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