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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I would rather see my tax dollars go towards having those ol' girls sterilized.
    Planned Parenthood does that......if funding is cut, they'll probably have to cut those services.
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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    First and second term fetuses are not viable and therefore not alive. You can't 'kill' something that is not alive.

    Your hyper-partisan Christian talking points speak is a major fail.
    Not alive??

    If they have a heartbeat they are alive. Even animals understand this.

    There is something tragically wrong with the education system if there are those who don't understand such a very simple concept.

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by OKgrannie View Post
    Planned Parenthood does that......if funding is cut, they'll probably have to cut those services.
    What I find amusing is that since federal money cannot fund abortion, what all this would have defunded was everything but abortion services provided by PP. Abortion services have to pay for themselves already, so they would not be touched, but preventive services would be. I consider that evidence that the people involved in this where either trying to appease their less than bright constitutions, or where not real bright themselves.
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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    The most radical social conservative elements, really terrorists amongst us, have tried to bring America to its knees. They failed but they were far too close to succeeding.
    Isn't this an overreact even for you. News bulletin, conservatives hold a lot of power in the Republican party and liberals hold a lot of power in the democratic.

    There I said it. If that is new news to anyone in a political debate site I have to admit to being shocked.

    I am also not surprised that a NY Times reporter said that this was the last stumbling block to a negotiation, when I thought all along it was a bargaining chip. Not sure if you have ever been in a high stakes negotiation. It is not unusual to go into it with points you know the other side will hate and you are happy to trade for something you really want.

    Start from the beginning of this budget fight. Republicans originally wanted to pass something like a $33 billion cut. The extreme wing wanted more so $61 billion was passed in HR1. The final agreement comes to something like $38 billion.

    So anyone who has passed negotiation 101 would probably conclude that there was a lot of smoke but one side got more than they had hoped for. Usually considered a win in any negotiation.

    When I came out of a negotiation with a conclusion similar to the facts above, we would break out the fine wine and cigars!

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    the big picture fallout from this deal is the new austerity agenda which the president himself is now racing to embrace

    White House: Obama to lay out spending plan - Yahoo! Finance

    from albany to sacramento (and from athens to brussels, as well), there's no stopping it---the austerity agenda

    ie, nothing you can do

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    and the pp piece rather revealed the democrats' heart as much as it did mike pence's

    an important part of the progressive pulse, apparently, is planned parenthood

    cuz a QUARTER BILLION per year aint chimp change, y'know

    seeya on the floor

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    in other words, washington dc is starting to catch up to andrew cuomo and jerry moonbeam brown

    enjoy your weekend, sundays are precious

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    the big picture fallout from this deal is the new austerity agenda which the president himself is now racing to embrace

    White House: Obama to lay out spending plan - Yahoo! Finance

    from albany to sacramento (and from athens to brussels, as well), there's no stopping it---the austerity agenda

    ie, nothing you can do

    sorry

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    Define austerity. Having a budget deficit of only $1.5 trillion, while perhaps moving in the right direction is a long way from austerity. We will learn the real meaning of the word when the world demands materially higher levels of interest unless we get our deficits under control. Who knows when that will happen, perhaps in 5 years or 5 days, but happen it will.

    Ask the people of ireland and Portugal in a couple of years if they wish they put their fiscal house in order before the world made them.

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservativesí Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Define austerity. Having a budget deficit of only $1.5 trillion, while perhaps moving in the right direction is a long way from austerity. We will learn the real meaning of the word when the world demands materially higher levels of interest unless we get our deficits under control. Who knows when that will happen, perhaps in 5 years or 5 days, but happen it will.

    Ask the people of ireland and Portugal in a couple of years if they wish they put their fiscal house in order before the world made them.
    Priorities of any government, and the importance the public attaches to them, means a great deal.

    When women having access to free abortions becomes more important than balancing budgets, then the future of the country becomes a little more murky.

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