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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Yes.

    We are not discussing crows. You are parsing definitions. CaptainCourtesy enjoys exposing folks who do that. Murder is a legal term in this case. It does not apply to abortion, and using it appeals to emotion. Killing is accurate.
    No.

    You were parsing definitions, and now you are complaining when someone else parsed your definition.

    That's all.

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

    Instead of arguing about whether abortion is murder maybe we could address the observation in the OP article that the delay of a budget deal to the eleventh hour demonstrates the continuing power social conservatives wield within the Republican party despite the ascendancy of the Tea Party's adamant focus on fiscal matters.


    Did the social conservatives hijack the Tea Party's budget battle?
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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    No.

    You were parsing definitions, and now you are complaining when someone else parsed your definition.

    That's all.
    Yes.

    You were the one parsing definitions. You don't like this fact, so you are attempting to claim that I did. Doesn't work.

    You've lost. Move on.
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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yeah, like this one time my boss told me I HAD TO STAY LATE. He basically dictated what I had to do. That's totally like being hitler.
    Yeah, but you work for him.

    Isn't the government supposed to work for us?



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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Point out where I said that abortion is not about convienience and then get back to me.
    Are you saying that you actually agree abortion is about convenience?

    Wrong. That is the irresponsible course. Setting something in motion without a plan of how to deal with it is like building a house without a foundation. This is classic from some pro-lifers. You want to end abortion, but you have no plan... nor desire to deal with what that means. With no plan, there is no reason to consider ending abortion from how I see it.
    Sure, no reason to try and put an end to the senseless killing of millions of babies. That is your problem. You want the side you disagree with to basically figure out a solution to everything wrong with our society before putting an end to the practice of abortion-on-demand.

    Irrelevant. Abortion is legal, currently. Therefore, it is not murder as defined, legally.
    Like I said, the Supreme Court is simply the end of the appeal process, it does not mean its rulings represent the law. The problem is no one but the Supreme Court can override it. That the Supreme Court has overridden past rulings is an acknowledgment that its rulings are not always consistent with constitutional law, meaning they do not represent a correct interpretation of the law. You can say all you like that abortion is "legal" but that does not mean it is actually true. My position is that the Supreme Court's ruling was in violation of the law and that an honest interpretation of the law would cause one to conclude abortion is very much in violation of the basic natural rights of the unborn, namely the right to life.

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    1. If the attempt is to outright outlaw abortion, then attempt to outlaw abortion. Stop with the pathetic attempts at working around the legal system.
    Except anything that moves us one step closer to barring the practice is a step forward. Just like any legal concession on civil rights for non-whites and women would be a step forward. I would certainly want it to end all at once, but if it is not possible to pull off then slowly restricting it until it becomes virtually inaccessible is perfectly acceptable. Someone wants contraception they can get it at a place that doesn't kill babies so someone can save a few nickels.
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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

    First we are racist for not agreeing with a liberal president (didn't you notice...he's negro!). Then we were "bubba's" because we "didn't get" the brilliance of Obama's health care reform. Now we are terrorists for not wanting to kill babies. What's next?
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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post

    Did the social conservatives hijack the Tea Party's budget battle?
    Yeppers.

    The Tea folks want Gov off our backs, out of our pocketbooks, and right into to our bedrooms...

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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    Are you saying that you actually agree abortion is about convenience?
    No. I'm saying that it is sometimes about convienience.

    Sure, no reason to try and put an end to the senseless killing of millions of babies. That is your problem. You want the side you disagree with to basically figure out a solution to everything wrong with our society before putting an end to the practice of abortion-on-demand.
    You want the change, you figure out the solution. YOU'RE the one that is invested in the change. Stands to reason that you would want to figure out how to manage that change. Not my job to do your work for you.


    Like I said, the Supreme Court is simply the end of the appeal process, it does not mean its rulings represent the law. The problem is no one but the Supreme Court can override it. That the Supreme Court has overridden past rulings is an acknowledgment that its rulings are not always consistent with constitutional law, meaning they do not represent a correct interpretation of the law. You can say all you like that abortion is "legal" but that does not mean it is actually true. My position is that the Supreme Court's ruling was in violation of the law and that an honest interpretation of the law would cause one to conclude abortion is very much in violation of the basic natural rights of the unborn, namely the right to life.
    Currently, abortion is legal. There is nothing that you said above that alters that fact. Disagree all you like. Doesn't change things, currently.
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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Disagree. They're funding should not be pulled. They should be restricted from using that funding for abortions... this I would support.
    How will poor women that need/want/chose abortions get them safely if there is no funding for them?
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    Re: Late Clash on Abortion Shows Conservatives’ Sway

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    How will poor women that need/want/chose abortions get them safely if there is no funding for them?
    PP takes private donations, I think.
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