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    Re: AFP: Brain structure differs in liberals, conservatives: study

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    Re: AFP: Brain structure differs in liberals, conservatives: study

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    Re: AFP: Brain structure differs in liberals, conservatives: study

    I don't quite buy this. This doesn't explain what happens when you change views, does your brain structure change as well? Wouldn't there be other noticable changes in behavior then as well? I know several people who have changed their political views dramatically, and I couldn't spot any difference in their behavior.
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    Re: AFP: Brain structure differs in liberals, conservatives: study

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    I don't quite buy this. This doesn't explain what happens when you change views, does your brain structure change as well? Wouldn't there be other noticable changes in behavior then as well? I know several people who have changed their political views dramatically, and I couldn't spot any difference in their behavior.
    I don't know. In my memory, which is certainly subject to all of the various human flaws, these sorts of studies that link one thing or another to very ill-defined terms that have no objective measurement are prone to generate all sorts of...unique data. I am reminded of phrenology.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: AFP: Brain structure differs in liberals, conservatives: study

    Maybe it's because Liberals have to work harder to make there beliefs actually work out logically, making the issue "complex". While conservatives are more based in reality, and reality isn't care-bears and rainbows, so they have to focus on what the fearful results of political decisions.

    lol... this study means nothing... let me have my partisan interpretation

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    Re: AFP: Brain structure differs in liberals, conservatives: study

    Ha!

    Their version of liberal is more like libertarian.
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    Re: AFP: Brain structure differs in liberals, conservatives: study

    Ive been saying that the irreconcilable divide between liberal types and conservative types was genetic for at least ten years. Its one of my pet theories.

    Kinda cool to get scientific support for something you came up with yourself, debating with friends.

    My theory goes like this:

    About 12,000 years or so ago, some people stopped wandering from place to place following the food, and started staying in one place and cultivating food.

    I think the human race began to diverge at this point, because this change in lifestyle would select for different traits.

    Oversimplified, the core difference is neophilia/neophobia, although "phobia" seems too strong for what I posit.

    More accurately, I feel it was more that a "hunger for the horizon", or a tendency to question one's position in the tribe, or any number of traits that make great hunter/gatherers would make LOUSY farmers. Miserable, unmarryable(sic?) farmers.

    So a lack of hunger for, or interest in, new things would be more accurate.

    That being said, submission to authority and a tendency to identify with the community would become strong selectors for what I call "pastoralis" types.

    I think this is a more correct basis for what often appears to be a fear response in conservatives.

    Understand, I think this is an interesting idea that I have thought about and talked about as an intellectual exercise for a decade or so. I don't think it is about superiority, or right, or wrong.

    I think the original stock types traditionally moved outward to the frontiers as civilizations spread. Fleeing rules imposed from above, taxes, holy men, politicians and all the other trappings of civilisation that sapiens-sapiens is evolutionarily equipped for.

    Now there are no frontiers left and the two sub-species are stuck with each other.

    And I think THAT'S what we are seeing being played out in the world today.
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    Re: AFP: Brain structure differs in liberals, conservatives: study

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Ive been saying that the irreconcilable divide between liberal types and conservative types was genetic for at least ten years. Its one of my pet theories.

    Kinda cool to get scientific support for something you came up with yourself, debating with friends.

    My theory goes like this:

    About 12,000 years or so ago, some people stopped wandering from place to place following the food, and started staying in one place and cultivating food.

    I think the human race began to diverge at this point, because this change in lifestyle would select for different traits.

    Oversimplified, the core difference is neophilia/neophobia, although "phobia" seems too strong for what I posit.

    More accurately, I feel it was more that a "hunger for the horizon", or a tendency to question one's position in the tribe, or any number of traits that make great hunter/gatherers would make LOUSY farmers. Miserable, unmarryable(sic?) farmers.

    So a lack of hunger for, or interest in, new things would be more accurate.

    That being said, submission to authority and a tendency to identify with the community would become strong selectors for what I call "pastoralis" types.

    I think this is a more correct basis for what often appears to be a fear response in conservatives.

    Understand, I think this is an interesting idea that I have thought about and talked about as an intellectual exercise for a decade or so. I don't think it is about superiority, or right, or wrong.

    I think the original stock types traditionally moved outward to the frontiers as civilizations spread. Fleeing rules imposed from above, taxes, holy men, politicians and all the other trappings of civilisation that sapiens-sapiens is evolutionarily equipped for.

    Now there are no frontiers left and the two sub-species are stuck with each other.

    And I think THAT'S what we are seeing being played out in the world today.
    Dude, in the traditional meaning of conservative, American conservatives and liberals are conservative on the UK scale.
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    Re: AFP: Brain structure differs in liberals, conservatives: study

    What about people who change views through the course of their lifetime?
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    Re: AFP: Brain structure differs in liberals, conservatives: study

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    What about people who change views through the course of their lifetime?
    2 possible answers to that,

    One, your brain changes as it learns new information or two, your brain was already wired to accept your changed views, it's just the other methods (maybe conditioning) overrides your acceptance of the view.
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