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Prosser gains 7,500 votes in Waukesha County


Nickolaus, who lives near Oconomowoc, worked for 13 years as a data analyst and computer specialist for the Assembly Republican caucus, one of four GOP and Democratic legislative groups now under

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Looks like you conveniently left out the part that makes the Dems look a little tarnished. Wonder why?

Oh, got a subscription so we can read the rest of the piece, instead of the headline?
 
This mess is gonna make a bunch of lawyers a bunch of money and waste lots of tax dollars.
 
Looks like you conveniently left out the part that makes the Dems look a little tarnished. Wonder why?

Oh, got a subscription so we can read the rest of the piece, instead of the headline?

No subscription, and I only included the portion about her being offered immunity in a campaigning case, since that is the only portion at all relevant to this thread...
 
Prosser gains 7,500 votes in Waukesha County - JSOnline

Waukesha County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus said Thursday that she failed to save in her computer and consequently report 14,315 votes cast in the city of Brookfield, omitting them entirely in an unofficial tally released after Tuesday's election. The new totals give 10,859 more votes to Prosser from Brookfield and 3,456 more to Kloppenburg, she said. Smaller discrepancies turned up in two other communities as well.

At the news conference with Nickolaus, Ramona Kitzinger, the Democrat on the Waukesha County Board of Canvassers, said: "We went over everything and made sure all the numbers jibed up and they did. Those numbers jibed up and we're satisfied they're correct."

As a Democrat, she said, "I'm not going to stand here and tell you something that's not true."

Interesting. The DEMOCRAT says the new numbers are correct!
 

Guess you missed my post waaaaaay back there at #14.

WisPolitics Election Blog: Waukesha County clerk apologizes for 'human error' that led to reporting incorrect vote totals

She said the mistake was discovered yesterday during the canvass.

She stressed it was not a case of votes being found.

"I’m thankful that this error was caught early in the process and during the canvass," Nickolaus said. "The purpose of the canvass is to catch these kinds of errors."



The wild swing in Prosser's favor immediately raised concerns among Dems, who pointed out Nickolaus is a former staffer for the Assembly Republican Caucus who was granted immunity in the investigation into allegations of illegal campaign activities on state time.Ramona Kitzinger, the Democratic member of the county board of canvass, defended the process. She agreed with Nickolaus that the board "went over everything and made sure that all the numbers jived up, and they did.""I'm the Democratic vice chair of Waukesha County, so I'm not going to stand here and tell you something that's not true," Kitzinger said.[/
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I'll wait for the recount. Regardless of the results the fact it was close was a good sign for Democrats/bad sign for Republicans in that state...but if it turns into a Prosser win that is a definite good thing for the Republicans in the end.
 
I didn't realize Chicago was in Waukesha County. :lol:
 
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Why should you care?

Your Acorn does it everyewhere....and all you have is..well...nothing concrete ;)

My Acorn? Wow, you don't know me at all well. Hint: I stated earlier this week that Acorn brought their problems on themselves and I did not feel bad for them. Further hint: I made nothing of the link, just presented it since it will be part of the conversation. Words have meaning, and if you read the words in my post you would understand that I in fact did not make anything of it.

By the way, this is a political debate site. That means we care about politics. Now you know why I would care about election results. It's not hard to figure out, you probably could have done it yourself.
 
This is what the winnabago site says now. I come up with Posser having a 1,814 lead.
DAVID T. PROSSER, JR 20701
JOANNE KLOPPENBURG 18887

That lead is in Winnebago county. I was talking about the statewide lead, which is at 40, and looks like it is soon to be 7,540.
 
I'll wait for the recount. Regardless of the results the fact it was close was a good sign for Democrats/bad sign for Republicans in that state...but if it turns into a Prosser win that is a definite good thing for the Republicans in the end.

As far as the union busting goes, it doesn't matter if Prosser had lost this election. His term expires July 31, which means that he would be sitting on this case anyways. Now, as far as redistricting goes, and for any legal action in the ongoing recalls, it is good for the GOP that Prosser won, because he will most likely be Walker's rubber stamp on these issues, although he has been known to occasionally break with the Republicans.
 
I just discovered something a little weird about this. She says that she kept the records in a Microsoft Access data base. She also says she entered the numbers but forgot to save them. In Microsoft Access, you don't save data, as it is automatically saved when you enter it. You could enter that data, and then have a power outage, but when you boot back up and bring up the Access data base, whatever you entered will be there. I know, because I created Access data bases at the last company I worked for. While entering data during a thunderstorm, a lightning strike caused us to lose power. Next day, when we had our power back, I turned on the computer, brought up the data base, and the data was there.

So, knowing this, how can she say that she entered the numbers, but forgot to save them, and that this is the reason the numbers were not there originally? BTW, as far as data entry goes, there is no save option. The save function only exists for database design.

NOTE: I may be nitpicking, but I believe that this question needs to be answered. On the other hand, if it's good enough for the Democrat on the election board, then I seriously doubt that there was any funny business. Clearing up this point, though, will preempt conspiracy theorists, and I bet that there is going to be quite of few of them.
 
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I just discovered something a little weird about this. She says that she kept the records in a Microsoft Access data base. She also says she entered the numbers but forgot to save them. In Microsoft Access, you don't save data, as it is automatically saved when you enter it. You could enter that data, and then have a power outage, but when you boot back up and bring up the Access data base, whatever you entered will be there. I know, because I created Access data bases at the last company I worked for. While entering data during a thunderstorm, a lightning strike caused us to lose power. Next day, when we had our power back, I turned on the computer, brought up the data base, and the data was there.

So, knowing this, how can she say that she entered the numbers, but forgot to save them, and that this is the reason the numbers were not there originally? BTW, as far as data entry goes, there is no save option. The save function only exists for database design.

NOTE: I may be nitpicking, but I believe that this question needs to be answered. On the other hand, if it's good enough for the Democrat on the election board, then I seriously doubt that there was any funny business. Clearing up this point, though, will preempt conspiracy theorists, and I bet that there is going to be quite of few of them.

Until you mentioned this, I was giving her the benefit of the doubt. However, I will admit that this new piece of info certainly makes her claim seem suspect, which calls into question whether or not she tampered with the vote.
 
From reading the article further I really suggest that a recount is in order because from looking at this a little bit further it seem just a little bit fishy that the same person is the sole person in charge of the counting. I worked as a election official myself in Houston, Texas for a time and lets just say it impossible to miss thousands of counts for something like this. When everything is done on a computerized machine which gives it out on paper results. Her story also seem a little bit off as someone who has worked with Excel it forces you to save and I mean it doesn't close unless you tell it too save. Also, losing data is hard do on a computer because the program records all things you type and saves all records in data base. So losing something like data is imposable to say the least. I'd chalk this up too a person not knowing how Excel or computers works in general, but I a bit naive as it looks like she is a programer so I would suggest a recount as this just seems a lot of Bs coming from Mrs. Nicolas.
 
I just discovered something a little weird about this. She says that she kept the records in a Microsoft Access data base. She also says she entered the numbers but forgot to save them. In Microsoft Access, you don't save data, as it is automatically saved when you enter it. You could enter that data, and then have a power outage, but when you boot back up and bring up the Access data base, whatever you entered will be there. I know, because I created Access data bases at the last company I worked for. While entering data during a thunderstorm, a lightning strike caused us to lose power. Next day, when we had our power back, I turned on the computer, brought up the data base, and the data was there.

So, knowing this, how can she say that she entered the numbers, but forgot to save them, and that this is the reason the numbers were not there originally? BTW, as far as data entry goes, there is no save option. The save function only exists for database design.

NOTE: I may be nitpicking, but I believe that this question needs to be answered. On the other hand, if it's good enough for the Democrat on the election board, then I seriously doubt that there was any funny business. Clearing up this point, though, will preempt conspiracy theorists, and I bet that there is going to be quite of few of them.
Are you sure she used Access to enter the data or did she use some other application to enter it and only used Access as the storage medium? If she used a custom application to enter the data, it would depend on that application as to how and when the data is persisted.

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So a clerk in a Republican stronghold just happens to find 7000 or so votes on a PC only she has access too, and those 7000 votes happen to flip the election in the Republicans favour after a day or so of news of him loosing.......I smell a rat...

Next we are going to learn there are only 6000 people in the county...

This sounds more like an election in a 3rd world dictatorship than in a democratic country. For one.. no single person should EVER have sole control over votes in an election. Whoever allowed this should be fired and barred from participating in an election with the exception of voting. How on earth can anyone say that the election in this area is at all legit when the only one who had access to the votes after the voting ended suddenly finds extra votes? Checks and balances for god sake!

And for the record, I could care less if the wacko right winger or wacko left winger wins.
 
If this discovery was made in favor of the Democrat, we would already have fifty pages written by the usual suspects filled with right wing outrage screaming about the fraud involved.

Isn't it also interesting how this 'discovery' not only put the right winger in the lead, but conveniently was large enough to take it beyond the level for a free recount making it far more expensive for the Dem to now do so?

Now watch for the right wingers to march before microphones and write rants saying that this is 'over' and we must put this behind us and forget about any 'divisive and expensive' recount.
 
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Questions of Greater Importance:

Were there extra ballots?

Were those extra ballots in Al Franken's trunk?

Were the ballots discovered in excess of the number of voters in the precinct/district/town?

Where were the Democrats when the above issues were being discussed in November 2008?

Hiding.

Any indication that this current vote adjustment is anything but the correction of an addition omission? Is any valid source claiming the votes were not legitimate votes?

Do you people always resort to character assassination immediately?
 
I'll wait for the recount. Regardless of the results the fact it was close was a good sign for Democrats/bad sign for Republicans in that state...but if it turns into a Prosser win that is a definite good thing for the Republicans in the end.

What it means is the union machine was incapable of changing the expressed will of the people, since the union machine turned a judicial election into a political contest over current events.
 
What in heavens name does your rantings about Al Franken have to do with this incident other than your own ideological extremist venting?

You attack Dems for character assassination and then do the same thing in the same post. Amazing if this were not so predictable.
 
What it means is the union machine was incapable of changing the expressed will of the people, since the union machine turned a judicial election into a political contest over current events.

Duh. This was a POLITICAL CONTEST made so by the laws of the State of Wisconsin. Every election is. Unions did not do that... state law did.
 
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