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    Re: Prosser gains 7,500 votes in Waukesha County

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    So now the AP is going to be the gatekeeper of honesty for election results?

    It is my understanding that the only thing that happened is that she neglected to report these totals to the AP. Who the hell is the AP?

    Did we have a recount when "Dewey beat Truman"??
    In this age of questionable voting machines without a verifiable proper paper trail, yes, possibly the AP needs to fill a role that seems to be left wanting.
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    Re: Prosser gains 7,500 votes in Waukesha County

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Can someone summarize for me, in an unbiased view, what the hell this thread is about? I don't understand whats going on. Votes went from one person to another? Or they were forgotten about? Or what? I just don't understand whats going on. This is a local election issue so I've heard nothing about it on the news.
    Real quick, the union busting law in wisconsin is going to the Wisconsin Supreme Court. The current ideologocal balance is 4 cons. 3 libs..

    The election in question is for the swing seat on that court.

    Prosser, the conservative, was 30 points ahead before the union issue.

    As a result of the Walker bill, turnout for Kloppenberg was very high, and when the official results were reported, Kloppenberg won by about 200 votes.

    Due to Wisconsin election law a recount was automatic.

    Then, the day after the election, a county clerk discovered an error on her part.
    14,000 votes she had neglected to save properly.

    These votes gave the victory to Prosser, by a margin that doesn't trigger an automatic free recount.

    The issue at hand is the clerk's past history.

    Shis is under prosecutorial immunity for an undisclosed election offense.

    She is a former employee of Prosser.

    She keeps all election records in her office. Only she has the passwords. She has been challenged on these practises by various entities, but refuses to change her practises.

    She has been involved in several highly publicised errors in the past.

    Including two previous times in which a Republican candidate was losing an election until she discovered an error on her part that tipped the outcome for the Republican.

    I think that's a pretty even-handed expression of the concerns being expressed on one side.

    The fact that the Walker bill issue may hinge on the outcome is why so many care about a State Supreme Court election.

    And before anyone says that the Walker case will be before Prosser regardless of the outcome I doubt very seriously that the lawyers on the anti-Walker side couldn't adequately delay the hearing long enough to matter.
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    Re: Prosser gains 7,500 votes in Waukesha County

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    Proof was provided. The rabid dog does not drink when led to water.
    Where? I don't see it. Show me a reputable link.
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    Re: Prosser gains 7,500 votes in Waukesha County

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    As a result of the Walker bill, turnout for Kloppenberg was very high, and when the official results were reported, Kloppenberg won by about 200 votes.

    Due to Wisconsin election law a recount was automatic.

    Then, the day after the election, a county clerk discovered an error on her part.
    14,000 votes she had neglected to save properly.

    These votes gave the victory to Prosser, by a margin that doesn't trigger an automatic free recount.
    At least two problems with your explanation.

    1)the results provied to the media were unofficial. This occurs in every election. unofficial vote numbers are provided to the AP. They canvas the vote eo make sure everythign was properly counted and match up with the number of cast votes. a few days later, they provide official results to the state.

    2) There is no auto recount in WI.

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    Re: Prosser gains 7,500 votes in Waukesha County

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Because she was elected as county clerk.

    This was just a reporting problem to the media. The discrepancy was noticed during the normal canvassing procedure, and the correct certified numbers were provided to the state elections board. They will probably do a recount in Waukesha, find everything is fine and the left will still claim that the evil republicans stole yet another election.
    Got it, she was elected to a second term even though she was investigated back in 2000? She claims so many computer issues yet she is a data analyst and computer specialist. I am not saying that there was fraud because the article even quoted democrats that said they we're satisfied the votes were correct. I am questioning this woman’s competency. I hope that she does not win an other term.
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    Re: Prosser gains 7,500 votes in Waukesha County

    Quote Originally Posted by 2K05GT View Post
    Got it, she was elected to a second term even though she was investigated back in 2000? She claims so many computer issues yet she is a data analyst and computer specialist. I am not saying that there was fraud because the article even quoted democrats that said they we're satisfied the votes were correct. I am questioning this woman’s competency. I hope that she does not win an other term.
    I think that's probably fair. I started out thinking that she should definetly be fired / asked to resign. As it became clear that it really was just a reporting problem to the media and the official county forms were all completed properly, i've softened my stance on that quite a bit.

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    Re: Prosser gains 7,500 votes in Waukesha County

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    At least two problems with your explanation.

    1)the results provied to the media were unofficial. This occurs in every election. unofficial vote numbers are provided to the AP. They canvas the vote eo make sure everythign was properly counted and match up with the number of cast votes. a few days later, they provide official results to the state.

    2) There is no auto recount in WI.
    1) Point taken, reported as opposed to official I guess. I personally felt Kloppenbergs announcement of victory was premature. Again, its how it looks that smells. I really like the idea of recounting the votes Nicklaus was responsible for. She obviously sucks at her job. I would not oppose a recount if the shoe was on the other foot. To keep this from becoming another conspiracy, if nothing else.

    2) There was a considerable amount of talk in the media about a number that provided a free recount as opposed to a paid recount. Something to do with the votes uncovered by Nicklaus not just giving the victory to Prosser but putting the margin beyond a state funded recall. I assumed an automatic recall was what was being discussed. I'll take your word on this.
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    Re: Prosser gains 7,500 votes in Waukesha County

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    1) Point taken, reported as opposed to official I guess. I personally felt Kloppenbergs announcement of victory was premature. Again, its how it looks that smells. I really like the idea of recounting the votes Nicklaus was responsible for. She obviously sucks at her job. I would not oppose a recount if the shoe was on the other foot. To keep this from becoming another conspiracy, if nothing else.

    2) There was a considerable amount of talk in the media about a number that provided a free recount as opposed to a paid recount. Something to do with the votes uncovered by Nicklaus not just giving the victory to Prosser but putting the margin beyond a state funded recall. I assumed an automatic recall was what was being discussed. I'll take your word on this.
    Yes, the annoucement, based on a 200 vote difference of unofficial numbers, seems ridiculous. Doesn't seem like a good decision for someone that hopes to be a judge. Could help explain the reasons why she was passed over for a judgeship so often.

    Free recount is different then auto recount. From what I can tell, it seems that the numbers (even with the net 7500 for Prosser) is still within the margin for free recount - last report I saw was a 6500 (or so) difference. It's just very unlikely she will overturn sich a big difference.
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    Re: Prosser gains 7,500 votes in Waukesha County

    From HuffPo regarding a story originally posted in an AOL/Huffington run newspaper on election night.
    UPDATE: 11:20 p.m. -- Perhaps the most convincing evidence so far that human error explains the initial omission of Brookfield's results comes from our colleagues at the Brookfield Patch. On election night, they reported a vote total for Brookfield that exactly matches the vote total Kathy Nickolaus did not include in the County level count until Thursday. As Joe Petrie and Lisa Sink of the Brookfield Patch reported on Thursday (via Mickey Kaus):

    On election night, the City of Brookfield reported that Prosser received 10,859 votes from city residents, or 76 percent of the vote, compared to the 3,456 votes cast for challenger JoAnne Kloppenburg. The Brookfield Patch reported those numbers in a story with chart posted about 12:30 a.m. election night.
    [Brookfield City Clerk Kristine] Schmidt said her office also posted the results on the city's web site before going home on election night.

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    Re: Prosser gains 7,500 votes in Waukesha County

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    AP = Associated Press

    And no she did not only "neglect" to report it to the AP but also to the official source. She admits she did not check her numbers as she should have because the result "looked correct".. basically she is a lazy piece of **** who should not have anything to do with elections. And that is the problem.. she neglected to check the numbers first and then suddenly decided to check them when her candidate was loosing and miraculously found many votes that put her candidate into the lead. That is why people smell a rat.. it might have been an honest mistake, but on the face of it, it looks and stinks like rigging an election for your candidate.... especially considering she has a history of doing so. We are again back to.. a total lack of checks and balances. No single person should have so much "power" over the election system.



    No because back then the US election system had integrity.... that kinda went out the window in 2000. Now the US election system resembles more a 3rd world banana republic than a cornerstone western Democracy.
    Are you claimng the final corrected tally contains over 7000 imaginary votes? Or are you in agreement that the votes were real?

    Since the votes were real, and since the final correct tally was presented to the officials on time, can you explain what your problem is in a manner that makes sense?

    The checks and balances were obtained, so where are you getting off claiminng they were not?

    No, the US electoral system's integrity was preserved in 2000, as you might have noticed the team trying to steal the election did not ascend to the White House. In 2008 the team attempting to steal the senate seat for Al Franken succeeded.

    In 2011, there was a minor clerical error whose only impact was to dash the hopes of the seeking to repeat Al Franken's theft. Unless you're denying those votes are real, your statements are inconsistent and confused.
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