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    Re: US may send ground troops to Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    Looks like many of the right wingers are scared to death there will be a successful outcome to implementing the no fly zone. How would it look? A successful regime change with no US Troops lost. I know some of you are getting impatient but it's not over yet.
    Not at all worried of a successful outcome (in my role as neocon, not a right winger). That would be stellar. But on what planet do you predict a successful outcome?

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    Re: US may send ground troops to Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Not at all worried of a successful outcome (in my role as neocon, not a right winger). That would be stellar. But on what planet do you predict a successful outcome?
    Top officials in Qadaffis government are defecting faster than Palin supporters. It's only a matter of time before Qadaffi makes a run for it to avoid a bullet in the head. I would say there is a 50-50 chance he doesn't last the year.
    It is swinging both ways but the war is only weeks old. Be patient.
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    Re: US may send ground troops to Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    Top officials in Qadaffis government are defecting faster than Palin supporters. It's only a matter of time before Qadaffi makes a run for it to avoid a bullet in the head. I would say there is a 50-50 chance he doesn't last the year.
    Yo, bro, send me some of that herbage...

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    Re: US may send ground troops to Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Yo, bro, send me some of that herbage...
    Do you guys honestly believe Qadaffi is in total control? If so I have some swampland in Florida you might be interested in.

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    Re: US may send ground troops to Libya

    What makes you so sure that Gaddafi's departure would even be a good thing for Libya, or for the world? He hasn't bothered us for years. Why is he suddenly our enemy again? And what makes you so sure that these rebels are more able to govern?

    We are once again making a foreign conflict all about *us*, and how wonderful we are.
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    Re: US may send ground troops to Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, a no-fly zone didn't cut the mustard, eh?

    Some of us told you all this from jump street.
    Don't give us that "I knew all along" crap. Thats just some bull**** you can twist to met any situation and claim to have known all along. A single CBS story about a General who says he think there may be others who will consider ground troops, and suddenly you knew all along it was going to lead to this point and you know exactly where its gonna go.

    Let me guess if Obama sends in grounds troops its "I knew it, he was a hypocrite, I knew it the NFZ wouldn't work."
    If he doesn't... "I knew it, he doesn't have the cuts to really see this thing through, I knew it!"

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    Re: US may send ground troops to Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Don't give us that "I knew all along" crap. Thats just some bull**** you can twist to met any situation and claim to have known all along. A single CBS story about a General who says he think there may be others who will consider ground troops, and suddenly you knew all along it was going to lead to this point and you know exactly where its gonna go.

    Let me guess if Obama sends in grounds troops its "I knew it, he was a hypocrite, I knew it the NFZ wouldn't work."
    If he doesn't... "I knew it, he doesn't have the cuts to really see this thing through, I knew it!"
    Some of us have been warning about mission creep since before the no-fly zone even began. Sending ground troops would be the most blatant example of mission creep possible.
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    Re: US may send ground troops to Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    War has only been declared 5 times, last time was WW II. Since then, 6 times Congress has authorized war without declaring it, including Vietnam and the Iraq War II. 8 times war was authorized by the UNSC and funded by Congress, 2 of which were also authorized by Congress (Multinational Force in Lebanon and the Gulf War - Iraq I).

    Iraq War II - Congress authorized.
    Military Intervention in Libya - UN authorized.

    Since Obama did not go to Congress for funding or authorization, and there was no immediate threat to our security, the fact is that the Iraq War II was entirely more legitimate than the Libyan adventure.

    Iraq War II was not illegal.
    Gulf War II was no more, or less, legal than the Libya operation. The Libya op--although rashly and ignorantly executed--was perfectly legal and constitutional.

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    Re: US may send ground troops to Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    Looks like many of the right wingers are scared to death there will be a successful outcome to implementing the no fly zone. How would it look? A successful regime change with no US Troops lost. I know some of you are getting impatient but it's not over yet.
    No, that never concerned any of us, IMO, because we knew that it just wasn't going to happen. Turns out, we were right on the money.

    This is a huge teachable moment for the Leftward leaning folks.

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    Re: US may send ground troops to Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    Do you guys honestly believe Qadaffi is in total control? If so I have some swampland in Florida you might be interested in.
    Of course not. It's a civil war. East vs West. Tribe against tribe.

    But...
    • Do you seriously think these high level defections impact Qaddafi's ability to project military force against the rebels?
    • Do you think the close air support missions by NATO will affect Qaddafi's ability to project military force, once he has figured out to protect his forces by embedding them in civilian populations (which he is already doing)?
    • Do you think that Qaddafi's tribe will abandon him?
    • Do you think that if Qaddafi does leave power, that something resembling a stable government will form in his absence?


    It is a complete cluster****.

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