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    Re: US may send ground troops to Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Bah I was afraid this was going to happen we shouldnt even have gotten involved at all with libya. No liberal can defend obama on this...HE DID THIS ALL ON HIS OWN...cant blame bush cant blame congress


    General: U.S. may consider troops in Libya

    WASHINGTON - The United States may consider sending troops into Libya with a possible international ground force that could aid the rebels, according to the general who led the military mission until NATO took over.

    General: U.S. may consider troops in Libya - CBS News
    You are correct. As a Liberal I cannot defend Obama. Our involvement in Libya is a mistake on a few different levels, and any expansion of that mistake would be terrible.

    I feel that General Ham may be either speaking out of turn, which is highly unlikely, or is playing a part in gauging Gaddafi's response to the threat of troops coming into country. Both Gates and Obama have made it clear that no troops (besides the CIA?) would be deployed in Libya, so I think this may be an opening gambit in diplomacy that we do not see. There is currently an admin envoy in Benghazi and a former senator in Tripoli talking to Gaddafi, so I doubt it is a mistake that this statement was made at this time.

    Though, a threat without the reality that it will be backed up is no threat at all, so I would suspect we see some troop deployment to the region soon. I'm just hoping it is only a threat and diplomatic gambit, of course. Otherwise I'll be really P.O'd.
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    Re: US may send ground troops to Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Politically compelled to choose the damned-if-you-do in this situation? From the little I gather it may be less of a quagmire than other 'distractions'.
    It is still wrong. Our action in Libya cannot be justified through the War Powers Act or the Constitution. Just like our involvement in Iraq, this is illegal.
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    Re: US may send ground troops to Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Obama's legacy is already shot, anyway.
    His legacy is still being written. So far, his foreign policy reads like a neo-cons wet dream. How's that for a legacy.
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    Re: US may send ground troops to Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by ADG View Post
    His legacy is still being written. So far, his foreign policy reads like a neo-cons wet dream. How's that for a legacy.
    Well I did say that he'd be another Bush. Though I did think at the start of his term he'd be going after Pakistan, not Libya.
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    Re: US may send ground troops to Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well I did say that he'd be another Bush. Though I did think at the start of his term he'd be going after Pakistan, not Libya.
    I've said this repeatedly! Don't believe me? Search the phrase:

    I voted for change and got Bush III.

    Oh wait. Forgot. I'm liberal therefore I blindly support Obama no matter what. Brraaaaaainnnsss.
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    Re: US may send ground troops to Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by ADG View Post
    It is still wrong. Our action in Libya cannot be justified through the War Powers Act or the Constitution. Just like our involvement in Iraq, this is illegal.
    Well, Obama didn't do anything illegal, nor un-constitutional by sending assets to Libya. The only thing he's guilty of is making a half hearted attempt at regime change, which isn't illegal.

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    Re: US may send ground troops to Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Well, Obama didn't do anything illegal, nor un-constitutional by sending assets to Libya. The only thing he's guilty of is making a half hearted attempt at regime change, which isn't illegal.
    He's just a hypocrite for not getting a declaration of war.
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    Re: US may send ground troops to Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by ADG View Post
    It is still wrong. Our action in Libya cannot be justified through the War Powers Act or the Constitution. Just like our involvement in Iraq, this is illegal.
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Well, Obama didn't do anything illegal, nor un-constitutional by sending assets to Libya. The only thing he's guilty of is making a half hearted attempt at regime change, which isn't illegal.
    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    He's just a hypocrite for not getting a declaration of war.
    War has only been declared 5 times, last time was WW II. Since then, 6 times Congress has authorized war without declaring it, including Vietnam and the Iraq War II. 8 times war was authorized by the UNSC and funded by Congress, 2 of which were also authorized by Congress (Multinational Force in Lebanon and the Gulf War - Iraq I).

    Iraq War II - Congress authorized.
    Military Intervention in Libya - UN authorized.

    Since Obama did not go to Congress for funding or authorization, and there was no immediate threat to our security, the fact is that the Iraq War II was entirely more legitimate than the Libyan adventure.

    Iraq War II was not illegal.

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    Re: US may send ground troops to Libya

    Looks like many of the right wingers are scared to death there will be a successful outcome to implementing the no fly zone. How would it look? A successful regime change with no US Troops lost. I know some of you are getting impatient but it's not over yet.
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    Re: US may send ground troops to Libya

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    He's just a hypocrite for not getting a declaration of war.

    Yep that sums it up

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