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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yes, they should have acted and done their jobs. And yes, both sides are playing politics and have been all along. And it might well be reasonable for Obama to say enough, reach an agreement. That would be reasonable.
    They were meeting all day on this budget too, and will tomorrow... Why the **** won't the GOP just take the riders out?

    I don't understand... what's the risk of taking them out? Does Boehner think he'll look weak, if they are removed?

    Who wants a shutdown???

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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by ADG View Post
    The reason why there hasn't been an agreement yet: Boehner! He is ineffective as speaker and the tea baggies have taken over the House.

    Von Hollen Says Boehner Is Not In Control.
    I thought the "tea baggies" didn't have that large of a caucus

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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    They were meeting all day on this budget too, and will tomorrow... Why the **** won't the GOP just take the riders out?

    I don't understand... what's the risk of taking them out? Does Boehner think he'll look weak, if they are removed?

    Who wants a shutdown???
    You don't know that the only thing holding this up is the riders. No one knows what is really being discussed. I doubt that there would be a shutdown over the riders.

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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    You don't know that the only thing holding this up is the riders. No one knows what is really being discussed. I doubt that there would be a shutdown over the riders.
    It might not be the only thing holding it up, but if the GOP took them out, they'd look like they were trying compromise more than the Dems..

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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Neither side wants to cave in and appear weak to their constituents, both sides are betting that the other side will take the blame for the shutdown from the people.
    The GOP keeps putting forth proposals that they know the democrats will not agree too and they know they cant get it passed just having the house...the democrats wont budge because they know it cant pass without them...sigh

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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Last edited by The Prof; 04-08-11 at 01:51 AM.

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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Funny thing about that budget plan: CBO Says GOP Medicare Plan Would Double The Cost Of Health Care For Seniors - Rick Ungar - The Policy Page - Forbes

    Accordingly to the CBO estimates, the program would result in seniors paying twice as much for their care – a sum that would total more than $12,510 a year.
    Here is the CBO document: http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/121xx/doc...yan_Letter.pdf
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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    then, by all means, demagogue it, kill it

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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    That 6 trillion spending cut plan is sure interesting: http://budget.house.gov/UploadedFile...rityFY2012.pdf

    Yes, that is the link to the actual plan. Always a good thing to include, funny how it was not in theprof's linking.

    Sets top rates for individuals and businesses at 25 percent
    There you have it, trickle down economics part 2. Give money to the wealthy and the poor, well they are poor, so who cares about them.

    While there would be no disruptions in the current Medicare fee-for-service program for those currently enrolled or becoming eligible in the next ten years, all seniors would have the choice to opt into the new Medicare program once it begins in 2022. No senior would be forced to stay in the old program. This budget gives seniors the freedom to choose a plan that works best for them and guarantees health security throughout their retirement years.

    These reforms also ensure affordability by fixing the currently broken subsidy system and letting market competition work as a real check on widespread waste and skyrocketing health-care costs. Putting patients in charge of how their health care dollars are spent will force providers to compete against each other on price and quality. That’s how markets work: The customer is the ultimate guarantor of value.
    What this is saying is that come 2022, people who move into Medicare would get a voucher to buy insurance from private companies with. Problem 1: private insurance companies have higher costs than Medicare and have to turn a profit. So seniors end up footing a much larger bill. Problem 2: Seniors need alot more health care, which would drive up the cost of health insurance for every one. The CBO report linked previously details all this.
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