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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Redress; the first time I clicked on your link, I could not get it to load for me. So this duplicates your post in case anyone else has the same problem. It is obvious that this is what is called in politics a "poison pill" which is intended to foilo passage of anything but simply play politics.

    http://www.ombwatch.org/files/budget...icy_Riders.pdf

    as you can well see, this has precious little to do with cutting funds from the budget.
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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Why would you NOT consider politics when making long-term budget decisions? If the Democrats lose funding for their promises like healthcare, then they're screwed. If Democrats get funding for promises like healthcare, then Republicans are screwed for missing an opportunity to do what they promised.

    Long-term budgets determine which policies succeed and fail - it would irresponsible to not "play politics" in making this decision.
    I strongly disagree. I find it irresponsible not to put America first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    My way or the highway, came straight out of Steny Hoyer's mouth tonight on Special Report. Also, what the hell is unreasonable about cutting 70 billion from 1.5 trillion? Now don't give me the Obama line about demo's agreeing to that either, if they were honest at all, agreeing to not spend some 30 billion is not cutting anything.


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    Why not take the money from the bloated defence budget?

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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Here is even more on the GOP poison pill policy riders

    http://www.ombwatch.org/files/budget...icy_Riders.pdf

    as you can well see, this has precious little to do with cutting funds from the budget.
    Same document I linked to and used to look up my quotes, but in a better format. Thanks.
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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Here is even more on the GOP poison pill policy riders

    http://www.ombwatch.org/files/budget...icy_Riders.pdf

    as you can well see, this has precious little to do with cutting funds from the budget.
    They didn't even try. It's such B.S..

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    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I strongly disagree. I find it irresponsible not to put America first.
    That is what pisses me off. If they wanted to, both sides could have reached a compromise. How hard is it to take two numbers, add them together, divide by 2 and say look, a compromise?
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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I strongly disagree. I find it irresponsible not to put America first.
    Yes, but in most ways I'd say, both parties think that they are putting America first. For example, the Democrats think that their Healthcare plan is good for America and yet the Republicans have not yet budged on pretty much defunding it entirely in their proposal. By getting rid of healthcare funding in a long-term budget proposal, the Dems have to give a way a fundamental aspect of their plan for doing what they think is best for the U.S.. The Republicans feel the same way about their provisions.

    It's the same general problem that we always face - both have different ideas of what the United States needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That is what pisses me off. If they wanted to, both sides could have reached a compromise. How hard is it to take two numbers, add them together, divide by 2 and say look, a compromise?
    That is 100% spot on. But the extensive list of GOP policy riders make it clear and without any doubt that much of this is NOT about budgets or saving money. Its about politics and shutting down the government because they believe it somehow advances a particular political agenda as they mistakenly believed two decades ago.
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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    the cr which passed boehner's house this morning doesn't touch obamacare

    Though there is broad agreement on the terms of the defense authorization bill, Democrats object to $12 billion in budget cuts that the measure calls for in the seven-day extension of funding for other areas of the government. House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) called instead for a one-week extension at existing spending levels.
    House budget bill: House passes measure with $12 billion in cuts - latimes.com

    the highest profile riders contained in the cr concern mountain top mining (targeting jay rockefeller and joe manchin), dc abortion funding and dc vouchers

    Senate Dems craft short-term stopgap - On Congress - POLITICO.com

    the president has threatened to VETO it

    i wouldn't be so sure, tho, the challenged chief exec changes his mind an awful lot

    anyway, if the dems want to kill it, let em

    it's certainly their prerogative

    meanwhile, try to maintain your dignity

    or we'll getcha on civility too

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