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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Barb's source says the rider is on the 1 week extension, so I withdraw my objection to Obama not signing it. Unlike Barb, I don't think it is Obama's fault for not signing a bill with an unrelated rider attached that is only there to make sure he does not sign the bill.
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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Here is the problem I have. Nobody is compromising. Democrats control the Senate and the Presidency. Republicans have the House. House Republicans are saying "My way or the highway". They may have won big in 2010, but seems to me that, until they also control the Senate and / or Presidency, they are in no position to hold the government hostage by making unreasonable demands. This most likely will backfire on them worse than it did when Gingrich also engineered a shut down during Clinton's administration. What makes me even madder is the Democrats knowing this, and willing to let the government shut down, in order to leverage it to increase their own political power. Congresscritters are scum bags. I don't care if they have a D or an R after their name. They are all scum bags.
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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    This shows that Obama and the democrats are playing politics and care nothing about the people of this country

    Obama vows to veto short-term bill - Washington Times

    The White House has vowed to veto the short-term spending bill House Republicans will vote on this afternoon, taking away the safety net that could have given both sides another week to avert a government shutdown.

    Without a short-term extension, the options would be narrowed to either a broad successful deal or a shutdown as of midnight Friday.

    “If presented with this bill, the president will veto it,” the White House said in an official statement of policy.
    My God I think I actually agree with Obama on something!!!! Is the sky falling?

    We need long term resolutions...not bandaid crap that has been the staple for both sides for the past decade at the very least.
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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    This is a good power play.
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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Here is the problem I have. Nobody is compromising. Democrats control the Senate and the Presidency. Republicans have the House. House Republicans are saying "My way or the highway". They may have won big in 2010, but seems to me that, until they also control the Senate and / or Presidency, they are in no position to hold the government hostage by making unreasonable demands. This most likely will backfire on them worse than it did when Gingrich also engineered a shut down during Clinton's administration. What makes me even madder is the Democrats knowing this, and willing to let the government shut down, in order to leverage it to increase their own political power. Congresscritters are scum bags. I don't care if they have a D or an R after their name. They are all scum bags.
    Give it time. This is a large battle.
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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Here is the problem I have. Nobody is compromising. Democrats control the Senate and the Presidency. Republicans have the House. House Republicans are saying "My way or the highway". They may have won big in 2010, but seems to me that, until they also control the Senate and / or Presidency, they are in no position to hold the government hostage by making unreasonable demands. This most likely will backfire on them worse than it did when Gingrich also engineered a shut down during Clinton's administration. What makes me even madder is the Democrats knowing this, and willing to let the government shut down, in order to leverage it to increase their own political power. Congresscritters are scum bags. I don't care if they have a D or an R after their name. They are all scum bags.
    At least the Reps didn't put on their running shoes and leave town.
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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Here is the problem I have. Nobody is compromising. Democrats control the Senate and the Presidency. Republicans have the House. House Republicans are saying "My way or the highway". They may have won big in 2010, but seems to me that, until they also control the Senate and / or Presidency, they are in no position to hold the government hostage by making unreasonable demands.


    My way or the highway, came straight out of Steny Hoyer's mouth tonight on Special Report. Also, what the hell is unreasonable about cutting 70 billion from 1.5 trillion? Now don't give me the Obama line about demo's agreeing to that either, if they were honest at all, agreeing to not spend some 30 billion is not cutting anything.


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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    I just looked up the riders on HR 1. It has zero chance of ever getting through the senate or signed with these riders, and it was asinine to put them there.

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    Sec. 1516. None of the funds made available by this division may be used by the Internal Revenue Service to implement or enforce any amendment made to section 6041 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 by section 9006 of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Public Law 111-148).

    Sec. 4013. None of the funds made available by this Act may be made available for any purpose to Planned Parenthood Federation of America, Inc. or any of the following affiliates of Planned Parenthood Federation of America, Inc.

    Sec. 4017. None of the funds made available by this Act may be used to carry out the provisions of Public Law 111-152, or any amendment made by either such Public Law.(this is the health care reform bill passed last year)

    Sec. 1112. Notwithstanding section 1101, none of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available in this division or any other Act (including division A of this Act) may be used to transfer, release, or assist in the transfer or release to or within the United States, its territories, or possessions Khalid Sheikh Mohammed or any other detainee who--

    (1) is not a United States citizen or a member of the Armed Forces of the United States; and

    (2) is or was held on or after June 24, 2009, at the United States Naval Station, Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, by the Department of Defense.

    That none of the funds in this division may be used for any recruiting or hiring of personnel into the Transportation Security Administration that would cause the agency to exceed a staffing level of 46,000 full-time equivalent screeners(LoLz)

    Sec. 4006. None of the funds made available by this Act may be used to implement the Report and Order of the Federal Communications Commission relating to the matter of preserving the open Internet and broadband industry practices (FCC 10-201, adopted by the Commission on December 21, 2010).(no net neutrality)

    Sec. 4009. None of the funds made available by this Act may be used to pay the salaries and expenses for the following positions and their offices:

    (1) Director, White House Office of Health Reform.

    (2) Assistant to the President for Energy and Climate Change.

    (3) Special Envoy for Climate Change.

    (4) Special Advisor for Green Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation, Council on Environmental Quality.

    (5) Senior Advisor to the Secretary of the Treasury assigned to the Presidential Task Force on the Auto Industry and Senior Counselor for Manufacturing Policy.

    (6) White House Director of Urban Affairs.

    (7) Special Envoy to oversee the closure of the Detention Center at Guantanamo Bay.

    (8) Special Master for TARP Executive Compensation, Department of the Treasury.

    (9) Associate General Counsel and Chief Diversity Officer, Federal Communications Commission.
    In other words, HR 1 is bull****.

    Edit: note that this is about 5 % of the total riders.
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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Here is the problem I have. Nobody is compromising. Democrats control the Senate and the Presidency. Republicans have the House. House Republicans are saying "My way or the highway". They may have won big in 2010, but seems to me that, until they also control the Senate and / or Presidency, they are in no position to hold the government hostage by making unreasonable demands. This most likely will backfire on them worse than it did when Gingrich also engineered a shut down during Clinton's administration. What makes me even madder is the Democrats knowing this, and willing to let the government shut down, in order to leverage it to increase their own political power. Congresscritters are scum bags. I don't care if they have a D or an R after their name. They are all scum bags.
    Why would you NOT consider politics when making long-term budget decisions? If the Democrats lose funding for their promises like healthcare, then they're screwed. If Democrats get funding for promises like healthcare, then Republicans are screwed for missing an opportunity to do what they promised.

    Long-term budgets determine which policies succeed and fail - it would irresponsible to not "play politics" in making this decision.

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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Here is the problem I have. Nobody is compromising. Democrats control the Senate and the Presidency. Republicans have the House. House Republicans are saying "My way or the highway". They may have won big in 2010, but seems to me that, until they also control the Senate and / or Presidency, they are in no position to hold the government hostage by making unreasonable demands. This most likely will backfire on them worse than it did when Gingrich also engineered a shut down during Clinton's administration. What makes me even madder is the Democrats knowing this, and willing to let the government shut down, in order to leverage it to increase their own political power. Congresscritters are scum bags. I don't care if they have a D or an R after their name. They are all scum bags.
    Speaker Boehner is caught between the old republicans and the tea party members.

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