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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    I neither said nor implied that. However, I did clarify that Obama and the Democrats aren't just "caring about" (in ptif's words) their "special interest groups", they are "caring about" their entire constituency - the majority of whom want funding for the healthcare plan that Republicans are trying to deny.
    And you said that if you voted for him....then you're in his constituency. (Implied?)

    For your specific point - of course the President of the United States represents you - he represents you by doing what he perceives is best for you and your country - and what he perceives is best for you and this country happen to be the things that his voters (his constituency) elected him to do.
    Ok, what are those things and how is he doing them? The truth be told though....he works for Americans. He is in their employ and he is to do what they want......all of them...not just the ones that voted for him.
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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Please explain.
    They spent an entire year failing to pass a budget. This was before the GOP took majority in the house. This budget should have been done in September 2010. A full 2 (actually 3) months before the GOP came into play on the issue. Blame is most definately with the democrats.
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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Please explain.
    Wait...are you serious? You really dont KNOW that this is the 2011 budget that was SUPPOSED to have been passed in 2010 by the democrat controlled congress???

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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

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    And you said that if you voted for him....then you're in his constituency. (Implied?)
    I actually said - "You is in Obama's entire constituency if you voted for him partially based on universal healthcare." (qualifier) Nonetheless, I do believe that anybody who voted for him is in his constituency - the majority of whom want funding for the healthcare plan.

    Ok, what are those things and how is he doing them? The truth be told though....he works for Americans. He is in their employ and he is to do what they want......all of them...not just the ones that voted for him.
    Well - specific to the budget - Obama and the Democrats negotiating it are protecting funding for the programs that they perceive as most important to the country, the main ones being healthcare, planned parenthood, the EPA, etc.

    I agree he works for all Americans. This, however, does not mean that he is to "do what they want". He is to do what he was elected to do while simultaneously working for the welfare of every citizen. If every president was to "do what they want...all of them", then we wouldn't need to have elections and nothing would ever get done. One can't both defund Planned Parenthood and fund it.

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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    They spent an entire year failing to pass a budget. This was before the GOP took majority in the house. This budget should have been done in September 2010. A full 2 (actually 3) months before the GOP came into play on the issue. Blame is most definately with the democrats.
    Oh okay. I agree with that assessment. I thought you meant that the Democrats were solely responsible for what's happening right now, as in the Republicans aren't playing politics at all in current negotiations. My mistake.

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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Wait...are you serious? You really dont KNOW that this is the 2011 budget that was SUPPOSED to have been passed in 2010 by the democrat controlled congress???
    Calm down. I misunderstood mac's argument.

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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    I actually said - "You is in Obama's entire constituency if you voted for him partially based on universal healthcare." (qualifier) Nonetheless, I do believe that anybody who voted for him is in his constituency - the majority of whom want funding for the healthcare plan.
    Well, no offense....which you'll take anyway...but this is completely assenine and is indicitive of what's wrong with our country. He's the President of the United States. Not the President of the Democrats.


    Well - specific to the budget - Obama and the Democrats negotiating it are protecting funding for the programs that they perceive as most important to the country, the main ones being healthcare, planned parenthood, the EPA, etc.
    So only the funding that Democrats think is important....does it matter much the several hundred thousand underpaid Americans will go without a check and have no savings to rely on to feed their families? Is this not important to democrats?

    I agree he works for all Americans. This, however, does not mean that he is to "do what they want". He is to do what he was elected to do while simultaneously working for the welfare of every citizen. If every president was to "do what they want...all of them", then we wouldn't need to have elections and nothing would ever get done. One can't both defund Planned Parenthood and fund it.
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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Oh okay. I agree with that assessment. I thought you meant that the Democrats were solely responsible for what's happening right now, as in the Republicans aren't playing politics at all in current negotiations. My mistake.
    The republicans were left to do the job the democrats failed dismally at. Its foolishness to think the republicans are going to federally fund abortions via Planned Parenthood. If this issue really mattered to democrats they should have done their job. If it pisses off liberals that they wont get their pet projects funded then they ought to raise hell with Pelosi, Reid, and all the rest of the democrat scumbags that couldnt even put together a budget proposal.

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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Calm down. I misunderstood mac's argument.
    Misunderstanding is fine. I think there actually are a lot of mindless folk out there that really do believe this is the republicans undoing something and not simply the republicans left to do a job the democrats refused to do.

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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Misunderstanding is fine. I think there actually are a lot of mindless folk out there that really do believe this is the republicans undoing something and not simply the republicans left to do a job the democrats refused to do.
    I think it's entirely overlooked that the Democrats simply refused to do their Jobs in this instance.
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