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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Who is President Obama's "entire constituency"?

    You is in Obama's entire constituency if you voted for him partially based on universal healthcare. You ain't if you didn't.

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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

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    You is in Obama's entire constituency if you voted for him partially based on universal healthcare. You ain't if you didn't.
    So...if I didn't...but I am a US citizen.....The President of the United States of America does not represent me??
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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    They are reporting on TV that it looks like a deal may be close,with the number being 38 B. The deal is not done, but optimism is higher.
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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    And even newer news: possible three day extension with no riders might get pushed through, but it is unclear if there is enough time to get it done.
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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    What tax increases? Obama is more concerned about special interests than he is a balanced budget or the deficit
    The minor tax increases republicans won't let happen. remeber, the republican answer to nearly anythign is a tax cut.

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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    That doesn't really matter. You can't expect them to want to fund things they are ideologically opposed too. Either way, what the GOP is doing now or not is irrelevant to the fact that the Democrats have quite simply screwed the pooch so badly that we are in this mess now. You can hardly blame the GOP for getting here.
    I believe you place blame where ever it is earned. Yes, democrats earned blame for not doing when they should have. Criticise them all you want. But that does not excuse republicans for their actions now. And the ideaological battle should be fought elsewhere. This should be about the budget. So, yes, I do blame republicans for picking the wrong fight at the wrong time. I suspect I won't be alone.

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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    So...if I didn't...but I am a US citizen.....The President of the United States of America does not represent me??
    I neither said nor implied that. However, I did clarify that Obama and the Democrats aren't just "caring about" (in ptif's words) their "special interest groups", they are "caring about" their entire constituency - the majority of whom want funding for the healthcare plan that Republicans are trying to deny.

    For your specific point - of course the President of the United States represents you - he represents you by doing what he perceives is best for you and your country - and what he perceives is best for you and this country happen to be the things that his voters (his constituency) elected him to do.

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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    They are reporting on TV that it looks like a deal may be close,with the number being 38 B. The deal is not done, but optimism is higher.
    I honestly would only notice a government shutdown in that I wouldn't get junk mail.

    Oh and if there was a shutdown government workers would still get paid at a later time. They would just be told to go home for the moment. Aka, a vacation.

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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I believe you place blame where ever it is earned. Yes, democrats earned blame for not doing when they should have. Criticise them all you want. But that does not excuse republicans for their actions now. And the ideaological battle should be fought elsewhere. This should be about the budget. So, yes, I do blame republicans for picking the wrong fight at the wrong time. I suspect I won't be alone.
    Oh no it does excuse them. The Democrats created the situation we are in...there is no other way to look at it. THEY CREATED THIS.
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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Oh no it does excuse them. The Democrats created the situation we are in...there is no other way to look at it. THEY CREATED THIS.
    Please explain.

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