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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yes, they should have acted and done their jobs. And yes, both sides are playing politics and have been all along. And it might well be reasonable for Obama to say enough, reach an agreement. That would be reasonable.
    Obama does not want reasonable. Obama wants it his way

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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    So cutting spending to democrat special interest groups is wrong? You show your partisianship
    Putting riders on a bill that are designed not to pass is wrong. If democrats put a rider on a bill limiting hand guns so that republicans would not vote on it, that would be wrong too.
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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I'm fully aware that you keep on reciting the same nonsense as you have before.

    Single payer is not the same as car insurance.
    Car insurance is for unforeseen events, while single payer is for expected and unexpected events.

    Oh yea the touted two tier system, where the 2nd tier is practically unaccessable to most people.

    A single payer system can not provide unlimited care to everyone, that's utopian nonsense and it has not been done anywhere.
    I didn't bring up car insurance here, so odd that you would. Is this to distract?

    Right now, much is unaccessable to a fair number of people. Adequate for many of them would be an improvement. unlimited care is a strawman as no one I know is calling for unlimited care. Nor is anyone calling for utopia.

    All we're talking about is better access for more people at less cost. Single payer systems allow better access and cost less than the system we currently have.

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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Obama does not want reasonable. Obama wants it his way
    Are you suggesting no one else wants their way? Not sure I see your point here.

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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I didn't bring up car insurance here, so odd that you would. Is this to distract?
    You brought up insurance, I mistakenly read car insurance into it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Right now, much is unaccessable to a fair number of people. Adequate for many of them would be an improvement. unlimited care is a strawman as no one I know is calling for unlimited care. Nor is anyone calling for utopia.
    It is accessible to everyone who needs care now.

    So if it's not unlimited, who will restrict it?

    You consistently contradict yourself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    All we're talking about is better access for more people at less cost. Single payer systems allow better access and cost less than the system we currently have.
    It allows for less cost by withholding care.
    Something you absolutely refuse to recognize.
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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Let's not be disingenuous. We have are elected officials for that. You know why the President intends to veto the bill. The Regressives are trying to use the crisis to ram through their social agenda. It is not about extension, its about their ideology.
    No its about money that goes to liberal democrat special interest groups

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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Obama does not want reasonable. Obama wants it his way
    Sure thing... the whole raising taxes on the rich a few months ago proved that to the world..... right?
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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    It's not all one party's fault... reading posts like your's just reminds me how f***ed this country is...
    It is the democrats should have had a budget before the election now we have threats of a government shutdown

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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post

    It is accessible to everyone who needs care now.

    So if it's not unlimited, who will restrict it?

    You consistently contradict yourself.
    If you see contradiction, you are misreading. And no, we do not have access for all now. Many people lack adequate health care access.

    You do realize your insurance company limits care. they don't have death panels either if you're trying to go there. You not being able to pay limits your care. Same with a single payer system. no one is suggesting unlimited care.


    It allows for less cost by withholding care.
    Something you absolutely refuse to recognize.
    As we limit care here, right now before reform, why do we pay more? It costs less for more than a few reasons, but they limit care no more than we do right now, under our current system before reform. in fact, they limit it less than we do as more people have acess to adequate care.

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    Re: Obama vows to veto short-term bill(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    It is the democrats should have had a budget before the election now we have threats of a government shutdown
    There wasn't a threat of shutdown until the GOP got involved...
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