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Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

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Colorado police pepper-spray misbehaving boy, 8 - Yahoo! News





Aww... those mean police officers.


Now Mom is going around on talk shows with her story of police brutality. I wish she'd just learn to parent her brat isntead of begging the public for attention.

Again, hats off to the officers for keeping cool heads and responding appropriately.

Here's the little terror. He doesn't look like a small kid.
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ok after reading this I gotta say the little bastard had it coming. Someone should pepper spray his mother for doing such a horrible job raising him
 
I have 3. One is a 10 yr old with Aspergers, who on occasion can get out of hand. Had this been my kid, in the exact same situation... I'd still support the officers actions.

Now... go ahead and tell me I'm a bad parent for not wanting to kick officer ass.

That's you. I would react much differently. You don't know me, so you can't say that I'm full of ****. So, hows about we just stick to the topic?
 
You make a very strong point, but I just dont see how it would have taken much effort to subdue the boy

I doubt it would taken a ton of effort. I do think though that the chance of harm for the cops OR the boy would be higher trying to subdue him then going the pepper spray route, which is why I don't have an issue with it.

If they chose to go physicaly I wouldn't be amazingly bothered by that either, but I think they would've opened themselves up to far more issues had they done that.
 
So to better understand your argument apdst.

If they had "grabbed his arm and spanked his ass" instead of pepper spraying him...you wouldn't have went "ape-****" and had your "nigga side" come out then?
 
That's you. I would react much differently. You don't know me, so you can't say that I'm full of ****. So, hows about we just stick to the topic?

To say you'd attack police officers... ARMED police officers... because they used pepper spray on your out of control kid in that situation... sorry.... it's bull****. I honestly do not believe you're that ****ing stupid, dude.
 
So to better understand your argument apdst.

If they had "grabbed his arm and spanked his ass" instead of pepper spraying him...you wouldn't have went "ape-****" and had your "nigga side" come out then?

You're catching on.
 
Lol touche, I have no children, so your theory may be correct
 
Was I talking to you?

My opinion is the same as Zyph's and you're posting on an open forum, so I felt free to answer your question. How does it affect your position now that I can answer "yes" to your question and still espouse the point of view that the police response was entirely appropriate in this case? :2razz:

Btw, have you ever used an OC spray or been exposed to one? I'm just trying to determine why you think this use of an orgainc, non-lethal defensive measure was so earthshattering when deployed against a smaller-than-adult target.
 
To say you'd attack police officers... ARMED police officers... because they used pepper spray on your out of control kid in that situation... sorry.... it's bull****. I honestly do not believe you're that ****ing stupid, dude.

And, again, when it comes to my kids, I'll get, "****ing stupid", in a heart beat.
 
You're catching on.

So physically assulting your kid, something that if done too hard or if the child resisted could've resulted in bruising, sprains, dislocations, or breaks wouldn't cause you to go "ape****" but something that will sting his eyes for a few hours would.

Yeah, i'm catching on. I'm not understanding the logic at all, but I'm catching on.
 
My opinion is the same as Zyph's and you're posting on an open forum, so I felt free to answer your question. How does it affect your position now that I can answer "yes" to your question and still espouse the point of view that the police response was entirely appropriate in this case? :2razz:



My question wasn't directed at your insult, so your answer is irrelevant.

Btw, have you ever used an OC spray or been exposed to one? I'm just trying to determine why you think this use of an orgainc, non-lethal defensive measure was so earthshattering when deployed against a smaller-than-adult target.

yes, I have. I've been tazed and shot, too. But, not when I was 8 y/o.
 
I doubt it would taken a ton of effort. I do think though that the chance of harm for the cops OR the boy would be higher trying to subdue him then going the pepper spray route, which is why I don't have an issue with it.

If they chose to go physicaly I wouldn't be amazingly bothered by that either, but I think they would've opened themselves up to far more issues had they done that.

I feel bad for the cops for just this reason. The only choice that wouldn't have likely caused them issues with the mother would have been to allow the kid to keep throwing a fit and possibly do more damage to the classroom, which would have likely caused issues between them and the school for allowing destruction of property. Any physcial action taken against the boy could have very likely caused some injury to the child, even if it would have been a small bruise or cut, which could have still been viewed by many, including the boy's mother, to be "too much". She stated that she just wanted them to "talk her boy down" like they did in earlier incidents, but she obviously doesn't get that her son is being a major disruption and authority figures shouldn't be expected to allow him to behave this way until he decides to calm down just because he is a child, especially if that means more damage to school property could occur.
 
So physically assulting your kid, something that if done too hard or if the child resisted could've resulted in bruising, sprains, dislocations, or breaks wouldn't cause you to go "ape****" but something that will sting his eyes for a few hours would.

Yeah, i'm catching on. I'm not understanding the logic at all, but I'm catching on.

As I said repeatedly, I would rather that than the use of pepper spray. I've physically disciplined my kids, but never felt a need to spray them with pepper spray.
 
Mace Spray, OC Spray, Pepper Spray, Police Supply

The North Carolina study found that the number of injuries to police officers
and suspects declined after pepper spray was introduced. Complaints that the
police used excessive force also declined.

The study of in-custody deaths concluded that pepper spray contributed to
death in two of the 63 cases, both involving people with asthma. In the other
cases, the researcher concluded that death was caused by the arrestee's drug
use, disease, positional asphyxia, or a combination of these factors.
 
apparently only if they are pepper sprayed. If they are physically beaten, no big woop, eh dog? :rolleyes:

Do you understand the difference between a spanking and a beating?
 
Oh, so now I'm a bad parent? :rofl

Well, no one would accuse you of that, but attacking a police officer who was reasonably performing his job sure doesn't set a stellar example for Junior does it, especially when Junior was just threatening to stab said officer, but hey, you raise your kids how you see fit and when they're adults, THEN maybe we'll judge you on how you parented them. ;)

I don't know. Do they?

No, they don't. Any other questions?
 
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Well, no one would accuse you of that, but attacking a police officer who was reasonably performing his job sure doesn't set a stellar example for Junior does it, especially when Junior was just threatening to stab said officer, but hey, you raise your kids how you see fit and when they're adults, THEN maybe we'll judge you on how you parented them. ;)



No, they don't. Any other questions?

Key word being, "reasonable". IMO, pepper spraying my kid would be un-reasonable.
 
Key word being, "reasonable". IMO, pepper spraying my kid would be un-reasonable.

I understand that you feel that way, but I just can't seem to get why you think the spray was so harmful to the kid and why you think he would have been better off being forcefully taken down and disarmed.

I don't mean that in a rude or mocking way, I'm truly curious.
 
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