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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    If my kid was trying to stab me, you're damn right I'd spray 'em.
    Not only spray him but him room would be empty, he would have nothing to play with and he would not go out to see friends.

    These kids think the life they have with toys and video games sucks, but it can get a whole lot worse.

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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Out of control, poorly parented kids aren't anything new. 30 years ago, when I was in grade school, teachers didn't need cops, tasers, nor pepper spray to keep kids in line.

    I don't see this just as a case of crappy parenting. I also see this as a case of crappy teaching.
    I can't agree with this.

    The teacher is limited on what they can do to a child which is probably why they called the police.

    It had to be a serious case to call the police into the school.

    The kid stated he was looking to harm other people with the weapon, it was lucky it was a stick and not a firearm.

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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I have yet to see anyone who is saying that the cops' response was a bad one give an alternative that was likely to work and cause potentially less damage to the child. Anyone have a realistic suggestion?

    I think the cops did the right thing here and the mother needs to accept it and do a better job at parenting her son instead of parading him around like a victim.
    I think child services should be involved with this family, if you can call it that, forever more.

    The behaviour will not stop. Somebody else will get hurt next time.

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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    And you know what, you may be right. Which is why I stated first hand I'd hope the office would review this appropriately. But its a stretch to go from suggesting that perhaps they're embellishing to just outright making it out to be something completely benign. A sharpened piece of wood can absolutely puncture the skin, significantly, even from an "8 year old kid". Even beyond that you have the whole issue of having an enraged kid that is obviously not just going to sit there while you try to "grab his arm and spank his ass", which in and of itself can lead to a tussle which could result in injury to the kid.

    Not only would such a situation open the kid to FAR more harm than pepper spray would, but it opens the police to far more liability and potential damage meaning that's money that is costing the tax payers.

    I see no reason for such a situation to occur as opposed to what happened...try to talk the kid down, try to get the situation deescalated non-violently, and if that's not possible take the action that's the least likely to put any party in harms way.
    It also seems to me the police were protecting the child from criminal charges as well.

    If he tried to stab an officer with the stick, that would be assaulting a police officer and be a serious charge.

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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    In part the amount of pressure you exert on a full grown adult male and a child can result in different results. Additionally, do you think with an adult that is acting extremely enraged and crazed is a cop trained to attempt to engage with that individual physically or with some alternative means to stop them? I'd love to hear Goshin or one of our actual LEO's comment on that.

    What are the chances of serious bodily harm to the child or to the officer from the use of Pepper Spray?

    What are the chances of serious bodily harm to the child or to the office from the use of force?

    Is one a higher chance than the other? If so, why would you suggest to use the one that has a higher chance of that?
    Which is more traumatic to the child and which is more likely to have long lasting effects?

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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Isn't acid anhydride and ingredient of Oleoresin Capsicum?
    apdst, if this was your kid and this had happened, what would you do to him afterwards?

    Would you punish him further?

    After all his behaviour is a reflection on your parenting skills.

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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    To say you'd attack police officers... ARMED police officers... because they used pepper spray on your out of control kid in that situation... sorry.... it's bull****. I honestly do not believe you're that ****ing stupid, dude.
    Now ask him how that would help his childs futures with him being in jail for a couple of years.

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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I feel bad for the cops for just this reason. The only choice that wouldn't have likely caused them issues with the mother would have been to allow the kid to keep throwing a fit and possibly do more damage to the classroom, which would have likely caused issues between them and the school for allowing destruction of property. Any physcial action taken against the boy could have very likely caused some injury to the child, even if it would have been a small bruise or cut, which could have still been viewed by many, including the boy's mother, to be "too much". She stated that she just wanted them to "talk her boy down" like they did in earlier incidents, but she obviously doesn't get that her son is being a major disruption and authority figures shouldn't be expected to allow him to behave this way until he decides to calm down just because he is a child, especially if that means more damage to school property could occur.
    He was being more than a major disruption. He was actively trying to get to where the other students were sitting to do more damage to hurt them.

    This kid had the intent to hurt people.

    The cops did the right thing.

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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    The cops did the right thing.
    Disagree. They should have called in Bam for the patented double dropkick.



    Would have set that little **** straight in a hurry.
    Disclaimer: If you are offended by the above post, and you aren't a SJW or truther, grow a pair.

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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by 505 View Post
    Disagree. They should have called in Bam for the patented double dropkick.



    Would have set that little **** straight in a hurry.
    We're having a problem with gutter punks here in New Orleans. I guess they're everywhere. I was thinking to ease the problem we start filming a weekly reality show about how we could handle the problem. I think the action could film people bullying the punks until they leave and go home and take a bath. The bullies then find nice homes for the abused dogs they keep to avoid jail. Happy ending. We could call the show "Bully Heroes"

    Your video exactly shows the type of bully action we need to solve our very annoying problem. I guess it would be kinda like Cops. Or Billy the Exterminate

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