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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    I guess you missed (or ignored) the multiple posts where people pointed out to you that the officers DID try to talk him down.

    Fail.
    I indeed did miss them as I went to my last post as I usually do, but of course you are going to try and say I ignored them.

    There are still conflicting reports from the cops and the mother, but still, seeing upon this new information, I'll say that the cops did do the correct thing.
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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    I indeed did miss them as I went to my last post as I usually do, but of course you are going to try and say I ignored them.

    There are still conflicting reports from the cops and the mother, but still, seeing upon this new information, I'll say that the cops did do the correct thing.
    I said you either missed or ignored. One or the other. You cleared that up, so thanks.

    AS for conflicting reports between the cops and the mother... the cops were there, the mother wasn't. They are eye witnesses, while the mother is basing her story on heresay. Which generally holds up in court?

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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    I indeed did miss them as I went to my last post as I usually do, but of course you are going to try and say I ignored them.

    There are still conflicting reports from the cops and the mother, but still, seeing upon this new information, I'll say that the cops did do the correct thing.
    My guess is the mother, ignorantly but thinking like a concerned parent, just ASSUMES that if they were able to talk him down last time then they OBVIOUSLY should've been able to talk him down this time and since they weren't able to then obviously they just didn't try hard enough.

    That said, if we want to play a guessing game, we could also suggest that the past two times they had to "pacify" him he wasn't destroying property, attempting to reengage those that have fled, brandishing a weapon, and shouting threats (apparently just "having a fit" according to some posters) and thus talking him down for longer may've been more feasible.

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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    I said you either missed or ignored. One or the other. You cleared that up, so thanks.

    AS for conflicting reports between the cops and the mother... the cops were there, the mother wasn't. They are eye witnesses, while the mother is basing her story on heresay. Which generally holds up in court?
    and, of course, mommy is going to side with her little darling who would never do anything wrong. I lost count of the number of times I had a parent say "My child would NEVER do that" , even though there were 40 frakin witnesses that saw her child do exactly "that".
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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    and, of course, mommy is going to side with her little darling who would never do anything wrong. I lost count of the number of times I had a parent say "My child would NEVER do that" , even though there were 40 frakin witnesses that saw her child do exactly "that".
    I've had teachers embellish a bit, too; so every time I get a call from the school house, I try to go into it with an open mind.

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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    I have no issue with this. The kid had a weapon, refused to drop it, had tried to stab people with it, cops had two prior experiences with him. Weapons are easier to take away from people when they are crying on the ground in a puddle of snot and tears. Why should they risk getting hurt for this turd and his weak moms parenting. (assumed by her blaming the cops instead of spanking his butt afterwards) Color me crazy, but this kid learned a valuable leason and next time the cops tell him to drop a weapon they probably won't have to shoot him. Kids get away with way too much, maybe if we came down harder on them when they were young they wouldn't fill our prisons as adults...

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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Ya have to be really careful of elderly ladies, too. Spray them in the eyes and push them over their walker.

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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    repeat offender.

    unless we know how large/sharp the wood being swung was, we don't really know if it was a real danger to the officers or anyone else.

    I have a 10 yr old, but I'll give the officers the benefit of the doubt on thisd one.
    We don't know how big the 8 year old is either.

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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    One can definitely see what the early stages of that style of parenting looks like.

    Obviously some people aren't fit to be parents.
    Where is the father?

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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Our most recent was this last weekend...an 8 year old kid, brought to the ER because he has learned how to pull mommies strings. He told her he hated her and was going to kill himself...he knows thats usually good for 5-8 days at an adolescent psych unit. Away from mom when talking to the nursing staff he is as pleasant as can be. He was able to sit down and have a 25 minute crisis interview after being told only once that this was not his house and his bull**** wouldnt be tolerated and he could either be respectful or be restrained and if he was aggressive towards the staff he wouldnt go to a psych unit he would go to detention and be charged with assault. Still a kid? Sure...but he clearly demonstrated an ability to choose, an ability to focus and stay focused, an ability to be alert, cooperative, and appropriately responsive. Actually a smart and personable kid. Then mom came back in the room to watch Jr. 3 minutes later she is screaming and he is biting her arm so bad he is drawing blood. Nurse grabs the kid by the arm and tech applies a nerve press to the jaw. Kid is immediately subdued. Moms first remarks..."you hurt his wrist!"

    All those that are critical of the cops...I defy you to put yourself not hypothetically in their shoes but physically, and see you do better.
    Again, where is the father.

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