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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
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    Over the top rhetoric.

    1. The foot long wood is BS



    Where does that say it was a foot long?
    yeah, for all you know it could've been 2,3 or even 4 feet long. you can bet your ass it wasn't a ****ing toothpick

    2. Hostages is also BS
    I do agree that calling the teachers hostages it a bit over the top.
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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
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    Over the top rhetoric.

    1. The foot long wood is BS



    Where does that say it was a foot long?

    2. Hostages is also BS
    Alright, I concede the hostages was a bit over the top, since they were safely locked in a closet. But the police are the ones that stated the piece of wood was over a foot long, so I take that at face value. So, care to state how YOU would handle the situation, sir?
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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Mr invisible, check back around post 15 or 20 I think. A more detailed story was posted. It included the fact that the wooden object was described by the police as a foot long piece of wooden trim with a knife like point. It notes the child was throwing things, including a tv. It also stated that housed a cart to try and bust down the door to the room the teacher had taken the kids into after attempts to calm the kid failed

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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I have a special needs kid that has two, or three episodes a year. We've never had to resort to this level of force to get her under control. This hits alot closer to home than you think it does.
    And I work in a hospital and have worked in juvenile facilities where kids like this can get seriously hurt by physically restraining them. Care providers get sued because its damn near impossible to use soft restraint techniques on an adolescent without causing harm.

    And frankly...your credibility suffers when you state that the cops would have been better off grabing the kid by the arm and beating his ass. Do you know the physical damage that can be caused by merely grabbing an out of control child by the arm? Followed by an ass beating? Really? And thats the cops role? And that beating would have gotten more of an outcry?

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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Do you understand the difference between a spanking and a beating?
    Sure. Now..son...come here...bend over. I know this is going to hurt me worse than its going to hurt you. no...stop wrtihing around son...Im just going to...son...now...stop...dont bite you little basta...sonova...now...SON...Im telling you...no...Im ORDERING you to calm down and take your spankin...put that stapler down....

    You and reality arent friends in this situation. I think you spoke off the cuff from the get go and wont back down just cuz....

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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    Alright, I concede the hostages was a bit over the top, since they were safely locked in a closet. But the police are the ones that stated the piece of wood was over a foot long, so I take that at face value. So, care to state how YOU would handle the situation, sir?
    A quote from the article you posted on the 2nd page of the topic:

    "It wasn't the first time officers had been called to pacify Aidan, Davis said. They'd been able to talk him down in two other incidents."

    Personally, I would have tried talking to the kid. See if there was something he wanted, see if there was some type of deal that could be brokered.

    Now if that failed and the cops then used the pepper spray, I wouldn't have had a problem.
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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Occurs to me we would be having a different discussion had the boy had a fatal allergic reaction to its active ingredient. The NYC PD reports that allergic reactions happen to 1 out of 100. (That's "reactions", not fatal reactions.)http://www.nyc.gov/html/ccrb/pdf/pepperreport.pdf
    We'd also be having a different discussion if the cop grabbed the kid who then spun around causing a spiral fracture, or by merely attempting to hold him choked the kid, or the kid ended up with torn ligaments or rotator cuff damage from simple restraint techniques.

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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    And I work in a hospital and have worked in juvenile facilities where kids like this can get seriously hurt by physically restraining them. Care providers get sued because its damn near impossible to use soft restraint techniques on an adolescent without causing harm.

    And frankly...your credibility suffers when you state that the cops would have been better off grabing the kid by the arm and beating his ass. Do you know the physical damage that can be caused by merely grabbing an out of control child by the arm? Followed by an ass beating? Really? And thats the cops role? And that beating would have gotten more of an outcry?
    I love how he stats he'd be perfectly fine with an ass beating by cops for his kids, but he'd go after the cops if they dared pepper spray his precious child. :

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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    A quote from the article you posted on the 2nd page of the topic:

    "It wasn't the first time officers had been called to pacify Aidan, Davis said. They'd been able to talk him down in two other incidents."

    Personally, I would have tried talking to the kid. See if there was something he wanted, see if there was some type of deal that could be brokered.

    Now if that failed and the cops then used the pepper spray, I wouldn't have had a problem.
    and you know they did not try that this time because??? How, exactly do you know they did not try?

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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    I love how he stats he'd be perfectly fine with an ass beating by cops for his kids, but he'd go after the cops if they dared pepper spray his precious child. :
    He's a good guy...I think he just bet a huge stack of chips on a pair of dueces and is riding out the bet. All thats left at that point is going all in...

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