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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ultimately, I blame the faculty.
    Anyone but the child and parent, right? It's gotta be the cops, or the teacher, or daytime television!
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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    true....but do yuou really expect an ME to rule that pepper spray was the cause of the death? reminds me of the case in indiana where the 15 yr old was searched, handcuffed (behind his back) and somehow was able to shoot himself in the head while sitting in the back of a police car. ruled a suicide.
    I'd expect some random organization who violently opposes the use of pepper spray to be able to find the one needle in the haystack, but even the ACLU can't confirm that the exposure to pepper spray was the cause of death in any of the listed cases. I do give the report extra points for being open and honest about that fact though. Again, all-in-all an interesting read.
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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ultimately, I blame the faculty.
    right. it's ALWAYS someone elses fault.

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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Link that it works by causing an allergic reaction? It works because it's a natural skin irritant. A fatal allergic reaction can include full out anaphylactic shock.

    @ Oscar -- I supported the coppers earlier in this thread and happened to think about the allergic reaction possibility. To say the only two choices were nothing and pepper spray is a little extreme, no?
    so what other choice would you suggest? whatever it is, there will be some crybaby handwringer who will say the cops should have done something different. and there's the kicker. they will complain, no matter what action the cops take.
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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    Anyone but the child and parent, right? It's gotta be the cops, or the teacher, or daytime television!
    The parent wasn't on the scene and the child isn't expected to know better. Are 8 y/o supposed to act like adults, now?

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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    right. it's ALWAYS someone elses fault.
    The faculty is too inept to handle a child throwing a **** fit? Really?

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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The parent wasn't on the scene and the child isn't expected to know better. Are 8 y/o supposed to act like adults, now?
    This was the THIRD time the police had to come out to the school for this child. Do you really believe the parent was unaware? My two year old knows that it's not acceptable to throw things or hit people...and you think an 8 year old doesn't?

    Chalking this up to anything but a spoiled brat without a strong parental figure is just pants-on-head ridiculous.
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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ultimately, I blame the faculty.
    you blame the faculty because the kid is an undisciplined POS? like I told a mother my first year of teaching when she wanted me to teach her brat to behave, "I cannot do in a semester, one hour a day, what you have failed to do in 14 years"
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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The faculty is too inept to handle a child throwing a **** fit? Really?
    more likely they were afraid mommy would sue them and the school board if they tried to restrain her little darling.

    and the point is, the kid should never have been throwing a **** fit in the first place, IF...mommy had been doing her job.
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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    This was the THIRD time the police had to come out to the school for this child. Do you really believe the parent was unaware? My two year old knows that it's not acceptable to throw things or hit people...and you think an 8 year old doesn't?

    Chalking this up to anything but a spoiled brat without a strong parental figure is just pants-on-head ridiculous.
    They shouldn't have had to show up the first two times.

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