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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Doesn't pepper spray have acid anhydride in it?
    Not that I can find online...

    What is Pepper Spray?
    Pepper spray is made up of an active ingredient called OC (Oleoresin Capsicum) and other inert ingredients. They can be water or oil based.

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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    OC spray is a far less dangerous option than tackling the kid or getting into a physical struggle with him. Why put the officers or the even the kid in more danger by escalating a situation that could be easily defused with an expedient and temporary solution. So his eyes burned and watered for a bit...boohoo. Maybe he should've thought about the consequences of riding that proverbial train before he bought the ticket.
    Can you imagine if someone had whipped out their cell phone to record the police trying to physically subdue the child, and put on Youtube? Police officers have to be super careful these days. The situation would be Rodney King on steroids.
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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Didn't Rodney King assault an officer, first? Plus, he's not 8 y/o.

    If ya'll don't mind this kind of thing happening to yall's kids, that's your business.

    But, if this was my kid, my redneck side and my nigga' side are going to come out, all at one time.
    And from the sounds of it, with the way you talk of your kids, they're not likely to go on an enraged attack chucking around $100's of dollars of public property, actively persuing people who try to leave, and actively attempting to get ahold of some kind of weapon incase you reach them.

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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Stats involving 8 y/o's? No, I don't have any.
    I'm sorry...is there something chemically about Pepper Spray that would make it affect an 8 y/o different than an 18 y/o?

    I'm sorry...is there some kind of physical nature of the 8 y/o body that makes it more impervious from physical harm than an 18 y/o?

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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Doesn't pepper spray have acid anhydride in it?
    Ummm...no. It doesn't. The active ingredient or agent that causes the burning sensation is Oleoresin Capsicum. OC is completely organic and is derived from cayenne pepper. The resins of other chili peppers may be used to create pepper spray as well. Aside from the active ingredient, Oleoresin Capsicum, non-active ingredients serve as a base for the spray. These non-active ingredients may be water or oil-based, depending on the manufacturer.

    There is no "acid" in a pepper spray. Get your facts right. Nothing about what the officers did was excessive. OC spray is no more harmful in the longterm than having a bucket of ice cold water thrown on you. I would know, I've been sprayed, and personally, I carry a can on me almost 100% of the time.
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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Didn't Rodney King assault an officer, first? Plus, he's not 8 y/o.

    If ya'll don't mind this kind of thing happening to yall's kids, that's your business.

    But, if this was my kid, my redneck side and my nigga' side are going to come out, all at one time.
    right...we know... you'd go all ape-**** on the officers to 'see what they are made of', right?

    Last edited by Whovian; 04-07-11 at 03:49 PM.

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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Didn't Rodney King assault an officer, first? Plus, he's not 8 y/o.

    If ya'll don't mind this kind of thing happening to yall's kids, that's your business.

    But, if this was my kid, my redneck side and my nigga' side are going to come out, all at one time.
    You miss the point repeatedly...to the point now where I think it is intentional. We arent talking about YOUR KIDS. Your kids likely wouldnt be THIS kid.

    Ive seen lots of folks like you stroll onto JH floors thinking they can easily take care of kids like this. They usually get hurt or sit back with their eyes wide and later make remarks like...damn...I didnt expect THAT...

    This aint what you think it is. You think its just a kid misbehaving. its not your kid. And to your credit, your kid wouldnt act that way.

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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Not that I can find online...

    What is Pepper Spray?
    Isn't acid anhydride and ingredient of Oleoresin Capsicum?

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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You're right and that door swings both ways.
    Many doors do. Ive walked through this particular door on more than a few occasions. I know kids like this...have worked with dozens of them.

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    Re: Misbehaving Boy, 8, Pepper Sprayed By Police

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Isn't acid anhydride and ingredient of Oleoresin Capsicum?
    No, it's not. Read my post above.

    The active ingredient in pepper spray is capsaicin, which is a chemical derived from the fruit of plants in the Capsicum genus, including chilis. Extraction of oleoresin capsicum from peppers involves finely ground capsicum, from which capsaicin is extracted in an organic solvent such as ethanol. The solvent is then evaporated, and the remaining waxlike resin is the oleoresin capsicum. An emulsifier such as propylene glycol is used to suspend the OC in water, and pressurized to make it aerosol in pepper spray. The high performance liquid chromatography (HPLC) method is used to measure the amount of capsaicin within pepper sprays. Scoville Heat Units (SHU) are used to measure the concentration or "heat" of pepper spray.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepper_spray
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