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    Re: ACORN Pleads Guilty to Voter Fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Could you please define massive as used in your post? Also, can you prove that ACORN advised clients how to falsify documents to open a prostitution house before James O'Keefe made his bogus videos?
    Get a grip there Pete but I saw Acorn workers advising who they thought were a prostitute and pimp how they could files false information to get loans.

    Chances are there were thousands of fraudulent voter registration in all these states. They should be shut down for good.

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    Re: ACORN Pleads Guilty to Voter Fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    tell it to cuomo and brown---twenty to fifty BILLION dollars in CUTS, with NO NEW TAXES, in new york and california alone

    that aint messaging

    it's a DONE DEAL

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    Its the "all on the backs of the middle class and poor" component that people aren't so sure about anymore.

    And the "its a bad idea to raise taxes on anyone in a recession" line doesn't quite justify cutting existing taxes on business and the fiscal elites one day, and then claiming they're broke and have to make cuts to save the country the next.

    And the intentional fomenting of hatred of anyone questioning the conservative "messaging" simply runs too contrary to our national self-image to be maintained indefinitely.

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    Re: ACORN Pleads Guilty to Voter Fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Get a grip there Pete but I saw Acorn workers advising who they thought were a prostitute and pimp how they could files false information to get loans.
    You saw a duplicitous edited series of scenes set up by a convicted liar, and you know nothing of what the workers were thinking.

    Chances are there were thousands of fraudulent voter registration in all these states. They should be shut down for good.
    Fraudulent registrations which nobody can use do not affect the outcome of elections. ACORN no longer exists.
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    Re: ACORN Pleads Guilty to Voter Fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by mtlhdtodd View Post
    Not hard to do just Google Acorn and voter (registration) fraud and look at the number of states they have done this in Wa, Mi, Mo, Wi to name a few
    Again, nothing as uncovered voter fraud. Mickey Mouse never went to the polls. You should do a search and learn about what really happened.

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    Re: ACORN Pleads Guilty to Voter Fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Its the "all on the backs of the middle class and poor" component that people aren't so sure about anymore.
    NY's Cuomo slashes spending, freezes taxes in budget | Reuters

    Capitol Alert: Jerry Brown signs $11.2 billion in budget solutions

    Jerry Brown Abandons Ballot Initiative | Seven Days | The Weekly News Roundup | East Bay Express

    And the "its a bad idea to raise taxes on anyone in a recession" line doesn't quite justify cutting existing taxes on business and the fiscal elites
    Obama Calls Tax Cuts the 'Right Thing to Do'

    At Obama's side, Clinton backs tax deal - Politics - White House - msnbc.com

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    opinions aren't examples

    not interesting

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    Re: ACORN Pleads Guilty to Voter Fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    can you prove that ACORN advised clients how to falsify documents to open a prostitution house before James O'Keefe made his bogus videos?
    pelosi, reid and more than 70% of their voting cauci sure got suckered

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    Re: ACORN Pleads Guilty to Voter Fraud

    nyt, july, 08:

    Acorn chose to treat the embezzlement of nearly $1 million eight years ago as an internal matter and did not even notify its board. A whistle-blower forced Acorn to disclose the embezzlement, which involved the brother of the organization’s founder, Wade Rathke. The brother, Dale Rathke, embezzled nearly $1 million from Acorn and affiliated charitable organizations in 1999 and 2000, Acorn officials said, but a small group of executives decided to keep the information from almost all of the group’s board members and not to alert law enforcement.

    Dale Rathke remained on Acorn’s payroll until a month ago, when disclosure of his theft by foundations and other donors forced the organization to dismiss him. “We thought it best at the time to protect the organization, as well as to get the funds back into the organization, to deal with it in-house,” said Maude Hurd, president of Acorn. “It was a judgment call at the time, and looking back, people can agree or disagree with it, but we did what we thought was right.”

    The amount Dale Rathke embezzled, $948,607.50, was carried as a loan on the books of Citizens Consulting Inc., which provides bookkeeping, accounting and other financial management services to Acorn and many of its affiliated entities. Wade Rathke said the organization had signed a restitution agreement with his brother in which his family agreed to repay the amount embezzled in exchange for confidentiality. Wade Rathke stepped down as Acorn’s chief organizer on June 2, the same day his brother left, but he remains chief organizer for Acorn International L.L.C.

    He said the decision to keep the matter secret was not made to protect his brother but because word of the embezzlement would have put a “weapon” into the hands of enemies of Acorn, a liberal group that is a frequent target of conservatives who object to its often strident advocacy on behalf of low- and moderate-income families and workers. The executive director of New York Acorn, Bertha Lewis, who has been named director of an interim management committee set up to run the national group’s day-to-day operations, said Dale Rathke was paid about $38,000 a year but that none of that money was used to pay back Acorn.

    Instead, she said, the Rathke family has paid Acorn $30,000 a year in restitution since 2001, or a total of $210,000. A donor has offered to give Acorn the rest of what the Rathkes owe, and an agreement to that effect should be finalized in coming days, Ms. Lewis said. But the fact that most of the handful of people who did not disclose the fraud when they learned of it eight years ago still work for Acorn or its affiliates concerns many of the group’s financial supporters.
    Funds Misappropriated at Nonprofit Groups - NYTimes.com

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    why did so many dems vote to d-e-f-u-n-d?

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    Re: ACORN Pleads Guilty to Voter Fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Could you please define massive as used in your post?
    Tens of thousands in dozens of states. For the link dependent: http://rottenacorn.com/activityMap.html

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Also, can you prove that ACORN advised clients how to falsify documents to open a prostitution house before James O'Keefe made his bogus videos?
    I believe it was more that one. Something like 3-5.

    But of course these are the only times ACORN advised people to falsify documents.

    O'Keefe just happened to catch all 3-5 on tape. What luck! Couldn't have happened before or since.
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    Re: ACORN Pleads Guilty to Voter Fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Yes, but unless the registrar of voters where you are operates radically differently than it does here in CA, voter registrations are verified. Names are checked against DL records, SS numbers, etc..

    Are there loopholes or whatever that could be exploited to pad ballot boxes?

    Certainly. Every state has their own rules and procedures, and people are great at figuring how to get around rules.

    But the "turn in fake applications for absentee ballots and thus steal an election" simply couldn't have happened as a result of the increased difficulty in obtaining the necessary identitification to do it.

    Here in Cali anyway.

    So unless the groups you mention are engaging in some other method to commit voter fraud, I still have to disagree with your premise.
    If ACORN and Project Vote get nothing out of it why are they trying to register fake voters?
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    Re: ACORN Pleads Guilty to Voter Fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    You saw a duplicitous edited series of scenes set up by a convicted liar, and you know nothing of what the workers were thinking.
    We don't know their inner thoughts that's true. We don't have to.

    ACORN's taped "advice" on how to falsify documents in multiple locations speaks for itself.

    If O'Keefe was a lefty exposing a right wing organization deliberately committing fraud in elections he would be showered with awards and praise.

    There are still people willing to defend ACORN. Could that have anythig to do with their former lawyer? Could be.

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Fraudulent registrations which nobody can use do not affect the outcome of elections. ACORN no longer exists.
    It's not the fraudulent registrations that are discovered. It's the ones they miss.

    lefties could care less an organization is deliberately attempting to register fake voters. They don't even care ACORN has been convicted many times of trying to hide that fact.

    Let me put it in words that might help you understand:

    A nationwide group closely tied to Republicans, with George W. Bush as their former lawyer, has been convicted numerous times for trying to register fake voters.

    Does that help?
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