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Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

Neither of those governors is seeking to take collective bargaining away - only wage concessions.

LOL!

who's talking about collective bargaining

we were discussing budgets

and have you SEEN california and new york?

ouch!

it's a lot more than wage concessions, too, i'm afraid

it's gonna add up to a couple hundred thousand jobs, once you factor in illinois, michigan, ohio, wisconsin, jersey, indiana...
 
Republicans were in charge of the Congress, and more precisely, in charge of the committees that Frank and Dodd sat on. Republicans were in charge, why are you blaming two members of the minority party for not passing legislation when it was Republicans who were in control?


If you don't know what led to the recession, I really can't help you. But the damage was from the mortgage crisis, of which the majority of damage occurred before Democrats took over in 2007. That's like you lending me your car and then blaming me for a flat tire after you put 50,000 miles on it and it wore out while I'm driving on it.


Who gave it to Clinton? Now while I hold Clinton responsible for signing it, I also hold the Republican-led Congress responsible for giving it to him to sign. All you're doing is exactly what CaptainCourtesy pointed out you're doing. You're blaming the Democrats and not the Republicans and you're seeking out which branch of government they control at any given time to assign your blame. You couldn't be more transparent if you were Barack Obama. ;)

It's been fun pointing this out. He's not going to admit it, but demonstrating his hypocrisy on this issue is always interesting.
 
LOL!

who's talking about collective bargaining

we were discussing budgets

and have you SEEN california and new york?

ouch!

it's a lot more than wage concessions, too, i'm afraid

it's gonna add up to a couple hundred thousand jobs, once you factor in illinois, michigan, ohio, wisconsin, jersey, indiana...

For god sakes please use paragraphs as its to hard read Haiku's.
 
No, it takes 60 votes to get most legislation through the Senate and the Republicans did not have what Obama had last in 2009-2010, overwhelming numbers and 60 votes in the Senate
While Republicans were in charge, there was no bill that even made to the point it could have been filibuster. What a lame-ass excuse.

Republicans were in charge, why are you blaming two members of the minority party?
 
Btw... as to the actual topic of the thread... I want to see who the GOP presents. If it is one of the idiots (Palin, Bachman, or Gingrich) Obama will have my vote. Anyone reasonable I will give consideration to. And by reasonable, I don't mean Paul.
 
While Republicans were in charge, there was no bill that even made to the point it could have been filibuster. What a lame-ass excuse.

Republicans were in charge, why are you blaming two members of the minority party?

Its pointless with him Sheik Yerbuti he seem to be blinded by his hackish self. I will admit, when I'm wrong, however he will not admit it when he is wrong.
 
Republicans were in charge of the Congress, and more precisely, in charge of the committees that Frank and Dodd sat on. Republicans were in charge, why are you blaming two members of the minority party for not passing legislation when it was Republicans who were in control?


If you don't know what led to the recession, I really can't help you. But the damage was from the mortgage crisis, of which the majority of damage occurred before Democrats took over in 2007. That's like you lending me your car and then blaming me for a flat tire after you put 50,000 miles on it and it wore out while I'm driving on it.


Who gave it to Clinton? Now while I hold Clinton responsible for signing it, I also hold the Republican-led Congress responsible for giving it to him to sign. All you're doing is exactly what CaptainCourtesy pointed out you're doing. You're blaming the Democrats and not the Republicans and you're seeking out which branch of government they control at any given time to assign your blame. You couldn't be more transparent if you were Barack Obama. ;)

Do you remember when Phil Gramm said we are a nation of whiners???
 
Its pointless with him Sheik Yerbuti he seem to be blinded by his hackish self. I will admit, when I'm wrong, however he will not admit it when he is wrong.

This is true... but it's fun pointing it out.
 
Time to kick his lying, dumb-ass to the curb. Obama is a failure at everything he has tried.

He will be big in history because his lack of effectiveness is a new low.
 
Btw... as to the actual topic of the thread... I want to see who the GOP presents. If it is one of the idiots (Palin, Bachman, or Gingrich) Obama will have my vote. Anyone reasonable I will give consideration to. And by reasonable, I don't mean Paul.

Yes, thank you I'll also agree that by reasonable it will not be Ron Paul because his Ideas are more lacking in luster than Palin and Bachman Ms Crazy.
 
lol I agree it is fun CC but it does get a hell of a lot of time when I could be debating with reasonable people like yourself CC.

True. I gotta get back to work, anyway. Keep 'em on the ropes, RH. ;)
 
lol I agree it is fun CC but it does get a hell of a lot of time when I could be debating with reasonable people like yourself CC.

Then by all means move on, maybe another forum would suit you better.
 
Its pointless with him Sheik Yerbuti he seem to be blinded by his hackish self. I will admit, when I'm wrong, however he will not admit it when he is wrong.
I'm aware of that and have experienced it first hand. Just the other day he made the fallacious claim that Bush created 6.5 million jobs. Even after I proved him wrong, he refused to acknowledge it.

It must really sting him, being edumicated by a Librul.
 
Do you remember when Phil Gramm said we are a nation of whiners???
Sure do. Seems it's solely Clinton's fault that he signed Gramm's bill.
 
why does the president's 2012 budget FAIL to address social security and the dismal m's, those lugubrious entitlements which are hurtling us over that cliff?

time to take away the keys
 
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