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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

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    Right, when you cannot refute the data resort to spell check and wordsmithing. Delusional
    sorry, i just couldn't resist. as for addressing your points, why would i? beating my head against a wall isn't appealing to me.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Holy ****!! You really have no clue what the difference is between nominal figures and real figures, do you?

    Here's the link you got those numbers from ...


    Current-dollar and "real" GDP

    Now look at the figures you posted and tell me which column you posted from ... the "current-dollar" column or the "real" column.

    After you're done slapping yourself in the forehead like you could've had a V-8, re-read the definition of "nominal" you gave and see if you can understand why everyone reading this thread is laughing their asses off.


    "Nominal numbers (sometimes called categorical numbers) are numerals used for identification only. The numerical value is irrelevant, and they do not indicate quantity, rank, or any other measurement." ~ Conservative
    Holy crap, Batman, what does real or nominal dollars have to do with the Obama record? Want to apply nominal dollars to Reagan and Bush but ignore the current numbers being generated by Obama. Nice diversion and distortion of reality. Holy crap, Batman, liberals are desparate!

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    sorry, i just couldn't resist. as for addressing your points, why would i? beating my head against a wall isn't appealing to me.
    Keep buying the liberal rhetoric and ignoring the liberal results. I always wondered why liberals are so easily brainwashed by rhetoric. How about explaining it to me? This thread is about the Obama candidacy and my question is what economic results has Obama generated that warrant re-election. Supposedly he stopped the loss of jobs, really? then why did it take so much money to generate numbers worse than when he took office? When will you judge his performance the same way you judged Bush's?

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    So then the Obama spending of TARP funds, STimulus and war supplementals had no impact on the deficit? Interesting. What world do you live in?
    I'll translate you trying to put words in my mouth as you're own way of surrendering the debate. Suffice it to say, I never said what you just ascribed to me.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    I'll translate you trying to put words in my mouth as you're own way of surrendering the debate. Suffice it to say, I never said what you just ascribed to me.
    Good, glad to hear then that you are rejecting the statement of Obama that he inherited a 1.2 trillion dollar deficit. We are making progress.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Holy crap, Batman, what does real or nominal dollars have to do with the Obama record? Want to apply nominal dollars to Reagan and Bush but ignore the current numbers being generated by Obama. Nice diversion and distortion of reality. Holy crap, Batman, liberals are desparate!
    Fascinating. You post meaningless numbers and when called on it, resort to your whine about me posting off-topic.

    How come you think it's ok for you to post off-topic but not me?

    You posted the meaningless nominal GDP figures during Bush's terms, not me. Instead of crying that I'm off-topic for responding to your off-topic post, why don't you at least thank me for teaching you the differecnce between nominal figures and real figures?

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Good, glad to hear then that you are rejecting the statement of Obama that he inherited a 1.2 trillion dollar deficit. We are making progress.
    I didn't reject that. I rejected the position you ascribed to me that I did not take. Before Obama spent a dime, the deficit was already projected to be $1.2 trillion. That's what Bush left for Obama.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Fascinating. You post meaningless numbers and when called on it, resort to your whine about me posting off-topic.

    How come you think it's ok for you to post off-topic but not me?

    You posted the meaningless nominal GDP figures during Bush's terms, not me. Instead of crying that I'm off-topic for responding to your off-topic post, why don't you at least thank me for teaching you the differecnce between nominal figures and real figures?
    You are absolutely right when asked why I voted for Bush and Reagan I shouldn't have answered since it was off topic. If I didn't respond to off topic questions then you wouldn't be getting any response at all and thus the attention you require.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    I didn't reject that. I rejected the position you ascribed to me that I did not take. Before Obama spent a dime, the deficit was already projected to be $1.2 trillion. That's what Bush left for Obama.
    That isn't what Obama stated but that is ok, he is given a pass and his supporters will buy it. Projected deficits are one thing, actual are another and Obama contributed significantly to that actual deficit which was different than the projected deficit which obviously didn't include the Stimulus plan which was passed well after the prediction.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    That isn't what Obama stated but that is ok, he is given a pass and his supporters will buy it. Projected deficits are one thing, actual are another and Obama contributed significantly to that actual deficit which was different than the projected deficit which obviously didn't include the Stimulus plan which was passed well after the prediction.
    I would assume the projection was based upon lost revenue from income taxes from lost jobs.

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