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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Still waiting for you to show me those saved jobs and where they are listed by job
    Those were your numbers. Why are you asking me to prove you right?

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Do you know what pro growth is?

    GDP
    1980 2,788.10
    1981 3,126.80 12.15%
    1982 3253.20 4.04%
    1983 3534.60 8.65%
    1984 3930.90 11.21%
    1985 4217.50 7.29%
    1986 4460.10 5.75%
    1987 4736.40 6.19%
    1988 5100.40 7.69%
    1989 5482.10 7.48%
    1990 5800.50 5.81%
    1991 5992.10 3.30%
    1992 6342.30 5.84%
    1993 6667.40 5.13%
    1994 7085.20 6.27%
    1995 7414.70 4.65%
    1996 7838.50 5.72%
    1997 8332.40 6.30%
    1998 8793.50 5.53%
    1999 9353.50 6.37%
    2000 9951.50 6.39%
    2001 10286.20 3.36%
    2002 10642.30 3.46%
    2003 11142.10 4.70%
    2004 11867.80 6.51%
    2005 12638.40 6.49%
    2006 13398.90 6.02%
    2007 14077.60 5.07%
    2008 14441.40 2.58%
    2009 14256.30 -1.28%
    2010 14657.8 2.82%
    Do you know what nominal figures are? It appears not.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    You have to ask Conservative, he's the one who posted the 3.5 million jobs saved/created cost us $228,000 each.
    No, I'm asking you how the stealfromus package saved/created over 3,000,000 jobs. That's your claim.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post

    Trufer alert. Look out everybody, it was ALL Bush's fault. I bet you believe that Bush had the levees in New Orleans blasted, to kill black people, huh?
    Trufer?? Where did I say Bush was an accomplice to 9.11? I said he did nothing to prevent it. If you think I'm wrong, tell me what actions he took?

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Allow me to straighten out your misrepresentation of the timeline ...

    January 7th, 2009, the CBO releases new estimates on the deficit, projected to hit $1.2 trillion for FY2009. (projects $1.2 trillion deficit for 2009)

    January 12th, 2009, Obama asks Bush to ask Congress to release the 2nd half of the TARP funds. (Bush Asks Congress to Release $350 Billion of TARP Funds)

    The $1.2 trillion deficit was projected while Bush was still president and before Obama spent a dime.
    If you are so concered about time lines then let me add the truth to that, TARP was passed in October 2008 the first month of fiscal year 2009. Fiscal year of the U.S. Govt. runs from October to September. TARP was 700 billion dollars and Bush spent 350 billion of it leaving Obama the other 350 billion.

    Did you ever answer the question as to exactly what part of the 2009 deficit was Obama's? What affect did that 350 billion left of Obama have on the deficit? Asking for its release doesn't mean Bush spent the money nor did he. Where did the money come from that was used to take over GM/Chrysler. What affect did the Obama stimulus plan have on the 2009 deficit? How about the war supplemental in June 2009? Seems to me that subtracting the Obama spending the CBO was wrong about the projected deficit.. Guess the CBO predicted well the Obama spending.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post

    No, I'm asking you how the stealfromus package saved/created over 3,000,000 jobs. That's your claim.
    And I told you, I repeated Conservative's claim. Take it up with him.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Do you know what nominal figures are? It appears not.
    Thanks for playing

    Nominal numbers (sometimes called categorical numbers) are numerals used for identification only. The numerical value is irrelevant, and they do not indicate quantity, rank, or any other measurement.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    If you are so concered about time lines then let me add the truth to that, TARP was passed in October 2008 the first month of fiscal year 2009. Fiscal year of the U.S. Govt. runs from October to September. TARP was 700 billion dollars and Bush spent 350 billion of it leaving Obama the other 350 billion.
    As I showed you, the deficit was already projected to hit $1.2 trillion while Bush was president and before Obama ever spent a dime. That was the gift Bush gave to Obama.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Did you ever answer the question as to exactly what part of the 2009 deficit was Obama's?
    Yes.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    And I told you, I repeated Conservative's claim. Take it up with him.
    Sheik, if you are going to continue to be dishonest then you go on ignore. I posted the CBO numbers which were provided by the Obama Administration or Congress. Take your problem up with them. I want to know where the saved jobs were and provide verifiable proof. BLS has no category for saved jobs as they cannot be calculated.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Thanks for playing

    Nominal numbers (sometimes called categorical numbers) are numerals used for identification only. The numerical value is irrelevant, and they do not indicate quantity, rank, or any other measurement.
    Ok, so you can copy & paste, but you can't comprehend. If you could, especially after posting that definition, you would not be posting nominal figures, you'd be posting real figures.

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