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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Posting percentage change over and over again doesn't change the fact that since Obama took office we have less employment than we had when he took office. That is a fact that you are always going to ignore.

    This really is getting old, add discouraged workers to both and get back to me.
    And again you avoid actually commenting on the facts presented to you.
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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Seriously? You looked at what I posted (which I included in this post to highlight your dishonesty) and claim I ignored discouraged workers when posting Obama's data??
    So losing jobs from when Obama took office off a terrible 2008 is a good thing in the liberal world? Hey, it only cost more than a trillion dollars to generate those numbers. that is who you are voting for.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    LOL, are you telling me that your U-3 numbers and calculating percentage change includes discouraged workers? LOL, better get an education
    No, I'm telling you the post you replied to included discouraged workers even though you claimed I ignored them for Obama but included them for Bush.

    Here is what I posted:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post

    Unemployed:
    Jan 2001: 6,023,000
    Mar 2003: 8,588,000

    Discouraged:
    Jan 2001: 301,000
    Mar 2003: 474,000

    Unemployed + Discouraged

    Jan 2001: 6,324,000
    Mar 2003: 9,062,000
    Bush Total: -2,738,000

    Unemployed:
    Jan 2009: 11,984,000
    Mar 2011: 13,542,000

    Discouraged:
    Jan 2009: 734,000
    Mar 2011: 921,000

    Unemployed + Discouraged

    Jan 2009: 12,718,000
    Mar 2011: 14,463,000
    Obama Total: -1,745,000
    Here was your response:

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    Noticed you have no problem posting Bush numbers with discouraged workers but ignore Obama's, wonder why?
    I'm glad you noticed I included discouraged workers for Bush, but how on Earth did you miss them for Obama? Another senior moment? Maybe a nap would help you calm down?

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

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    Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.Last warning, the personal comments need to end.
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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    So losing jobs from when Obama took office off a terrible 2008 is a good thing in the liberal world? Hey, it only cost more than a trillion dollars to generate those numbers. that is who you are voting for.
    It took two tax cuts in 2001 and 2002 to lead the way towards Bush losing 2.7 million jobs at this point in his presidency. Conservatism is a failure. That's what you voted for before you complained that people are considering voting for Obama, who performed better than Bush up until this point in his presidency.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Last warning, the personal comments need to end.
    My apologies to Conservative.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    No, I'm telling you the post you replied to included discouraged workers even though you claimed I ignored them for Obama but included them for Bush.

    Here is what I posted:



    Here was your response:


    I'm glad you noticed I included discouraged workers for Bush, but how on Earth did you miss them for Obama? Another senior moment? Maybe a nap would help you calm down?
    I take it you won't be voting for Bush in 2012?

    Interesting, here are the discouraged workers by month so not sure where you are getting your numbers from but regardless, this election is about Obama not Bush. It is the Obama record that you cannot defend

    2001 301 287 349 349 328 294 310 337 285 331 328 348 321
    2002 328 375 330 320 414 342 405 378 392 359 385 403 369
    2003 449 450 474 437 482 478 470 503 388 462 457 433 457
    2004 432 484 514 492 476 478 504 534 412 429 392 442 466
    2005 515 485 480 393 392 476 499 384 362 392 404 451 436
    2006 396 386 451 381 323 481 428 448 325 331 349 274 381
    2007 442 375 381 399 368 401 367 392 276 320 349 363 369
    2008 467 396 401 412 400 420 461 381 467 484 608 642 462
    2009 734 731 685 740 792 793 796 758 706 808 861 929 778
    2010 1065 1204 994 1197 1083 1207 1185 1110 1209 1219 1282 1318 1173
    2011 993 1020 921

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    It took two tax cuts in 2001 and 2002 to lead the way towards Bush losing 2.7 million jobs at this point in his presidency. Conservatism is a failure. That's what you voted for before you complained that people are considering voting for Obama, who performed better than Bush up until this point in his presidency.
    Are you sending your Bush tax cuts back after receiving your paycheck each month? Whether or not Bush was a failure will be up to historians to determine and serve no purpose now. What is on the table are the Obama results and if that is a success in your book, you have a serious problem understanding the definition of success. Losing jobs and raising the debt isn't a success.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    My apologies to Conservative.
    Unlike some here I can take it, no problem

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

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    Interesting, here are the discouraged workers by month so not sure where you are getting your numbers from but regardless

    2001 301 287 349 349 328 294 310 337 285 331 328 348 321
    2002 328 375 330 320 414 342 405 378 392 359 385 403 369
    2003 449 450 474 437 482 478 470 503 388 462 457 433 457
    2004 432 484 514 492 476 478 504 534 412 429 392 442 466
    2005 515 485 480 393 392 476 499 384 362 392 404 451 436
    2006 396 386 451 381 323 481 428 448 325 331 349 274 381
    2007 442 375 381 399 368 401 367 392 276 320 349 363 369
    2008 467 396 401 412 400 420 461 381 467 484 608 642 462
    2009 734 731 685 740 792 793 796 758 706 808 861 929 778
    2010 1065 1204 994 1197 1083 1207 1185 1110 1209 1219 1282 1318 1173
    2011 993 1020 921
    Here are the numbers I posted:

    Jan 2001: 301,000
    Mar 2003: 474,000
    Jan 2009: 734,000
    Mar 2011: 921,000

    My numbers are the same as yours, where do you think I got them from?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    this election is about Obama not Bush. It is the Obama record that you cannot defend
    Why do you think I need to defend Obama's record to someone who voted for Bush, whose record was worse than Obama's?

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