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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    What does that have to do with the thread topic. Reagan isn't on the ballot, Bush isn't on the ballot but Obama and his results are.
    If Obama's record is the topic then so is the record of past presidents who did not perform as well as Obama in various regards.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post

    It doesn't bother you that we'll be stuck with that jackass for another four years?
    It's all relative and it depends on who's running against him.

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post

    What the hell is wrong with you? Don't tell me you think he's a great president.
    Personally, I think he's doing a decent job. Not great, but decent.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    If Obama's record is the topic then so is the record of past presidents who did not perform as well as Obama in various regards.
    As has been pointed out and even recognized by the Obama Administration officials, it is the Obama record, not past Presidents that is going to be on trial in Nov. 2012 and if the numbers stay as they are today, Obama loses. You keep comparing Obama's record to 2008 while ignoring what it cost to get worse results.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    It's all relative and it depends on who's running against him.


    Personally, I think he's doing a decent job. Not great, but decent.
    Of course you do because that is what you want to believe. the results are quite different.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    If Obama's record is the topic then so is the record of past presidents who did not perform as well as Obama in various regards.
    What is the logic here? We will vote in 2012 not 2004 so why does looking backwards count.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    It's all relative and it depends on who's running against him.


    Personally, I think he's doing a decent job. Not great, but decent.
    YouTube - "You Picked a Fine Time to Lead Us, Barack" by Jonathan McWhite

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post

    What is the logic here? We will vote in 2012 not 2004 so why does looking backwards count.
    We're not voting here, we're discussing if Obama deserves 4 more years. And for the sake of discussion, it's fair to assess the job he's doing just as it's fair to compare him against prior administrations.

    For example, if Republicans don't think he deserves another 4 years because they feel he's failed with employment, you don't think it's reasonable to show that despite unemployment increasing 13% on his watch at this point, that's still better than every single Republican president, dating back to Herbert Hoover? I view that as a completely appropriate response.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    If Obama's record is the topic...
    if?

    LOL!

    grow up

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    We're not voting here, we're discussing if Obama deserves 4 more years. And for the sake of discussion, it's fair to assess the job he's doing just as it's fair to compare him against prior administrations.

    For example, if Republicans don't think he deserves another 4 years because they feel he's failed with employment, you don't think it's reasonable to show that despite unemployment increasing 13% on his watch at this point, that's still better than every single Republican president, dating back to Herbert Hoover? I view that as a completely appropriate response.
    Using percentage change doesn't tell the story because percentage change ignores people dropping out of the labor market which is more than double anything Bush had during his first term or any other President. You cherrypick data to justify your support and fail miserably.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    We're not voting here, we're discussing if Obama deserves 4 more years. And for the sake of discussion, it's fair to assess the job he's doing just as it's fair to compare him against prior administrations.

    For example, if Republicans don't think he deserves another 4 years because they feel he's failed with employment, you don't think it's reasonable to show that despite unemployment increasing 13% on his watch at this point, that's still better than every single Republican president, dating back to Herbert Hoover? I view that as a completely appropriate response.
    Is this really the record you are proud of?

    Unemployed + Discouraged
    2008 8095 7831 8194 8043 8797 8980 9356 9890 10036 10656 11225 12042
    2009 12653 13445 13995 14556 15310 15514 15330 15751 15865 16420 16201 16196
    2010 15902 16075 15999 16457 16056 15830 15784 15970 15976 16062 16401 15803
    2011 14856 14693 14463


    14.463 million people unemployed in March 2011 vs 12.653 unemployed on January 2009 when Obama took over. Now you can post percentage change all day long but when you ignore discouraged workers who have dropped out of the labor force you are being disengenuous and a typical Obama supporter who will do anything to prop up the empty suit.

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