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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    LOL!

    the president, head of his party on capitol hill, proposes

    the congess disposes

    where ya been?
    Ah, so you are saying that both have responsibility. I think I already asked you and you responded by saying that the President is the head of his party, but I'll ask again... are you saying that both Congress and the President have fairly equal responsibility in the economy?
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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    There is an error in your argument, here. You seem to believe that being OK with paying more taxes is equivelent to WANTING to pay more taxes. These two things are not the same.
    you are in error-you missed the point. no one wants to pay more taxes-some accept that as a necessary evil to get more wealth

    for rich dems its better to pay 100K in more taxes if you get 300k more in income by being in power.



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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    So... Obama has spent nothing. Interesting fantasy land you live in.
    In my best Whovian impersonation: "Where did I say Obama didn't spend any money?"

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Seriously?
    "Employment 6.5 million jobs created/8 years=over 812 thousand per year." ~ Conservative
    Where'd you get your information that Bush created 6.5 million jobs?
    Obama job creation-Employment Numbers from bls.gov

    Jan 2009 142221
    Jan 2010 138333
    Mar 2011 139864

    Jobs Lost 2.3 million jobs lost and all that money wasted yet Obama wants another four years and has your vote. Says a lot about the Obama supporter

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so anyone making over 250K a year is "greedy"

    Sham wow constantly claimed those people needed to pay more
    He didn't demonize people who make 250K and he certainly did not call those people "greedy". - once again, you're spinning reasonable suggestions into demonization.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    why would they send more money to the government when less wealthy classes are still paying taxes that they perceive as too high? For example, if wealthy Jack pays $20 out of $1000 income to a government and middle class Sally pays $20 out of a $300 salary, then wealthy Jack donating an extra $100 doesn't change the fact that middle class Sally is still paying $20...what wealthy Jack wants is for his taxes to be $120 and Sally's to be $10.

    If Bill Gates sends $10 million to the federal government, taxes for the less wealthy citizens are still the same. like i said - when wealthy people argue for higher taxes, they're arguing that they should take more of the burden than their less wealthy citizens.

    sending EXTRA money doesn't change the middle class taxes they're fighting against....

    edit: they want to pay more money...too take the burden off of others. they don't want to pay more money just for sake of paying more money.
    that is stupid

    rich people pay the highest rates on like income

    rich people pay far more actual dollars to the government

    rich people pay the highest income tax rates

    why do dems demand that those who don't pay enough should not have tax hikes but those who pay too much and are hit with the death tax surcharge pay even more?

    vote buying pure and simple



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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    He didn't demonize people who make 250K and he certainly did not call those people "greedy". - once again, you're spinning reasonable suggestions into demonization.
    saying that the rich (ie over 250K) didn't pay their fair share is demonization



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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Obama had control of the entire government? You're doing it again, Conservative. Talk about not understanding civics. Remind us again... who controls the government, Congress or the President?
    Remind the dem wit dems on this forum that continually blame Bush for the economic downturn that occurred in his last 2 years in office who controls the gov't.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you are in error-you missed the point. no one wants to pay more taxes-some accept that as a necessary evil to get more wealth

    for rich dems its better to pay 100K in more taxes if you get 300k more in income by being in power.
    No, you are making assumptions. Some accept paying more taxes as a necessary evil so that the government can provide services. Your assumption is about as accurate as liberals who claim that all conservatives are greedy.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Remind the dem wit dems on this forum that continually blame Bush for the economic downturn that occurred in his last 2 years in office who controls the gov't.
    OK... who do YOU think controls the government? Congress or the President?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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