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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    As I stated I blamed both Bush and the Congress for the recession, you obviously ignored that so have a good night, I am not going to fight with a moderator.
    My being a moderator is irrelevant to the conversation. So, you are now saying that the issues with the economy prior to 2008 are the fault of both Bush and Congress, and the problems with the economy after 2008 are the fault of Obama and Congress. Is this your position?
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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    well, there's also rhetoric, expectations, uncertainties...

    even resentments

    you see, a big part of the economy is psychological...
    A big part of EVERYTHING is psychological.
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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

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    No, it takes 60 votes to get most legislation through the Senate and the Republicans did not have what Obama had last in 2009-2010, overwhelming numbers and 60 votes in the Senate
    What reforms were drafted and where did the Democrats filibuster reform?

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    In charge of what?
    Republicans were in charge of the Congress, and more precisely, in charge of the committees that Frank and Dodd sat on. Republicans were in charge, why are you blaming two members of the minority party for not passing legislation when it was Republicans who were in control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    The recession began in late 2007 and the banking crisis was 2008, who was in charge of Congress then?
    If you don't know what led to the recession, I really can't help you. But the damage was from the mortgage crisis, of which the majority of damage occurred before Democrats took over in 2007. That's like you lending me your car and then blaming me for a flat tire after you put 50,000 miles on it and it wore out while I'm driving on it.

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    Who signed the repeal of Glass-Steagall?
    Who gave it to Clinton? Now while I hold Clinton responsible for signing it, I also hold the Republican-led Congress responsible for giving it to him to sign. All you're doing is exactly what CaptainCourtesy pointed out you're doing. You're blaming the Democrats and not the Republicans and you're seeking out which branch of government they control at any given time to assign your blame. You couldn't be more transparent if you were Barack Obama.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Matty View Post
    I look forward to the most definitely interesting campaigns to come. My vote will most likely go to Obama.
    This I'll agree with as long as perhaps the GOP brings up a better candidate, but to me it seem to be unlikely since a lot of the presidential candidate on the right side have lacked a lot of luster. I wished we had a Franklin Delano Roosevelt or perhaps a Teddy Roosevelt to actually be able to led us instead of a Wendell Willkie or a shill.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Neither of those governors is seeking to take collective bargaining away - only wage concessions.
    LOL!

    who's talking about collective bargaining

    we were discussing budgets

    and have you SEEN california and new york?

    ouch!

    it's a lot more than wage concessions, too, i'm afraid

    it's gonna add up to a couple hundred thousand jobs, once you factor in illinois, michigan, ohio, wisconsin, jersey, indiana...

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Republicans were in charge of the Congress, and more precisely, in charge of the committees that Frank and Dodd sat on. Republicans were in charge, why are you blaming two members of the minority party for not passing legislation when it was Republicans who were in control?


    If you don't know what led to the recession, I really can't help you. But the damage was from the mortgage crisis, of which the majority of damage occurred before Democrats took over in 2007. That's like you lending me your car and then blaming me for a flat tire after you put 50,000 miles on it and it wore out while I'm driving on it.


    Who gave it to Clinton? Now while I hold Clinton responsible for signing it, I also hold the Republican-led Congress responsible for giving it to him to sign. All you're doing is exactly what CaptainCourtesy pointed out you're doing. You're blaming the Democrats and not the Republicans and you're seeking out which branch of government they control at any given time to assign your blame. You couldn't be more transparent if you were Barack Obama.
    It's been fun pointing this out. He's not going to admit it, but demonstrating his hypocrisy on this issue is always interesting.
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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    LOL!

    who's talking about collective bargaining

    we were discussing budgets

    and have you SEEN california and new york?

    ouch!

    it's a lot more than wage concessions, too, i'm afraid

    it's gonna add up to a couple hundred thousand jobs, once you factor in illinois, michigan, ohio, wisconsin, jersey, indiana...
    For god sakes please use paragraphs as its to hard read Haiku's.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    No, it takes 60 votes to get most legislation through the Senate and the Republicans did not have what Obama had last in 2009-2010, overwhelming numbers and 60 votes in the Senate
    While Republicans were in charge, there was no bill that even made to the point it could have been filibuster. What a lame-ass excuse.

    Republicans were in charge, why are you blaming two members of the minority party?

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Btw... as to the actual topic of the thread... I want to see who the GOP presents. If it is one of the idiots (Palin, Bachman, or Gingrich) Obama will have my vote. Anyone reasonable I will give consideration to. And by reasonable, I don't mean Paul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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