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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post

    Anyone other than me notice that when discussing the economic problems before 2008, Conservative faults the Democratic Congress, and when discussing the economic problems after 2008, Conservative faults the Democratic President. To me, there seems to be a rather hackish consistency in his argument... one reason why I pay no attention to what his argument actually is. Just thought I'd point this out.
    I doubt that escaped anyone's notice. Just like they credit Bush for the Dow reaching 14,000 while Democrats ran Congress, but blame Democrats for the market crashing following that milestone.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It's not a big change, but it is better.
    better than what?

    Obama could gain full employment (which no President has done), walk on water and bring about world peace and it wouldn't be enough for you.
    perhaps, but in doing so one would be awful lonely

    the american people, in contrast, would want to come up with some kinda nobel of their own to reward him with

    on tsunami tuesday why did the president's party lose more house seats than anyone since 1938, the most state reps and legislatures in history, 10 gubs, 6 senators...

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    I doubt that escaped anyone's notice. Just like they credit Bush for the Dow reaching 14,000 while Democrats ran Congress, but blame Democrats for the market crashing following that milestone.
    I'm coming up with a list of comments or positions that demonstrate that one presents as a partisan hack. This will be one of them.

    Point is, you can't have it both ways. Either blame Bush and Obama or blame neither. Does the President control the economy, or does Congress?
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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You really need to take a civics course to see how govt. works, then you need to ask yourself how Barack Obama with overwhelming control of Congress generated such miserable results? I would have thought that liberalism on full display and total control would really have our economy humming by now and yet the American people don't seem to be giving Obama a lot of credit as the polls show. Wonder who really has the disconnect, you or the majority?
    It's sad to see you attempt to pass yourself off as somebody who knows something about government. Anybody who dares to disagree with your 100 percent Republican party position is the accused of not knowing government or civics. I taught the course for 33 years but that does not stop you from telling me the same thing too many times in the past even though it's just a difference of opinion and perspective.

    You should really stop it or lose the last remaining shreds of credibility you may have with even your fellow True Believers.
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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Well since may, 2009, we've seen a net gain of almost 200,000 jobs in the private sector.
    8000 a month?

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    I gave you the date and location of the CBO report that generated those numbers. You have a problem with the numbers? take it up with the CBO
    And I thank you for providing that CBO article because it proved you were lying. Nowhere in that article did the number, $228,000, appear. That number, despite your claim to the contrary, did not come from the CBO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    You have a problem with the numbers? take it up with the CBO
    Why would I have a problem with you saying Obama saved or created 3.5 million jobs? That more than accomplished his "key goal" of creating or saving 3 million jobs by the end of last year.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    I was talking about you
    why, don't you have anything more important to concern yourself with

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    better than what?
    Better than the month before. I didn't say wonderful, but it was an improvement.


    on tsunami tuesday why did the president's party lose more house seats than anyone since 1938, the most state reps and legislatures in history, 10 gubs, 6 senators...
    Same reason the opposite happened two years before. Punishing the party in power. It's certainly not because of any inherent greatness in either party.
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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I'm coming up with a list of comments or positions that demonstrate that one presents as a partisan hack. This will be one of them.

    Point is, you can't have it both ways. Either blame Bush and Obama or blame neither. Does the President control the economy, or does Congress?
    Thank you for the non partisan statement however IMO and according to basic civics they both control and affect the economy. The President can recommend spending and policy but it has to be approved by Congress just like Congress can approve legislation that the President can veto. Congress can override that veto but a President cannot overturn a Congressional veto.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Bush was too liberal for me but less liberal than Gore or Kerry.
    And Qadafi is less evil than Hitler. Not exactly something to be proud of.

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