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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It goes with what seems to be the prevailing Conservative view (meaning all Conservatives, not "Conservative"). If Obama does it, it's bad (Romney-care, breathing in and out).

    I think "Conservative" should be forced to change his name to "Republican." There is a distinct difference. For example, I know many actual Conservatives who think Bush was terrible. Wouldn't hear that from "Conservative."
    Wrong, Romneycare is a state initiated program not a national one and that is where issues like this belong. As for being a Republican, I vote Republican because they beat the alternative but Bush was too liberal for me but less liberal than Gore or Kerry.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Doesn't look like you paid a lot of attention to the entire thread as I have repeated stated that GW Bush had help in creating the recession we had in 2008 just like Obama had a lot of help from the Democrat Congress to generate the disasterous results he has generated since being President. The Democrat President had a Democrat Congress to help him implement his agenda and the results aren't very good. Bush had a Democrat Congress that was more interested in regaining the WH than it was helping Bush prevent a recession thus we got a recession with a Democrat Congress and less employment and higher debt with a Democrat President and Democrat Congress.
    Like I said, according to you, if it happened when a Republican was President, the economy is the controlled by Congress. If it happened when a Democrat was President, the economy is controlled by the President. I've seen you post like this for quite some time. It's hypocrisy, Conservative, and hackish hypocrisy at that.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    What you believe and what is real are two entirely different things.

    For example, while you complain about the percentage of debt of GDP being too high (a valid complaint) ... you supported the man who saw that increase 52% and refuse to support the man who saw it increase, amidst the Great Recession, just 9%.
    the deficit for february alone was greater than what's-his-name's for all of 2007

    U.S. sets $223B deficit record - Washington Times

    Deficit for Fiscal 2007 Slides - Real Time Economics - WSJ

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Doesn't matter what Frank wanted, until 2007, he was in the minority party. Republicans were in charge until then and did not pass any legislation which might have prevented the collapse. I blame Republicans for that; just as I blame Democrats for not passing any legislation after they took over in 2007. But by then, most of the damage had already occurred. By 2006, the housing bubble was already declining, on its way to complete collapse.
    Yet with overwhelming Democrat numbers and even a filibuster proof Senate Obama generated these kind of results, less employment and greater debt plus we now have $4 gasoline and it is going higher. Oh, by the way did you get your ticket to NYC for the 9/11 trial of terrorists? Didn't Obama claim to the world he was closing GITMO and had a Democrat Congress to do that? Oh, well, liberals have a selective memory when it comes to promises and results.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    For doing a better with job with unemployment than every Republican president since Hoover.
    LOL!

    125,000 per month doesn't even keep up with population

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Like I said, according to you, if it happened when a Republican was President, the economy is the controlled by Congress. If it happened when a Democrat was President, the economy is controlled by the President. I've seen you post like this for quite some time. It's hypocrisy, Conservative, and hackish hypocrisy at that.
    Unlke many here I understand civics and that isn't what I stated and you are being dishonest in your statement. All spending is indeed controlled by Congress and the President can do very little without Congressional support, that IMO is why we went into recession in 2008 as Democrats were more concerned about regaining the WH than doing their job. Sounds like a little baiting to me and disengenuous at that. You are showing your true colors.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    You sure have a lot of time invested in Bush hatred
    What's not to hate? He left a memorial where the Twin Towers once proudly stood; he took us to war over WMD that weren't there; unemployment nearly doubled on his watch; the stock market lost about a third of its value; he led the economy to a near complete meltdown; we had to spend $700 billion just to prevent that meltdown from leading us into another Great Depression. He left a city to drown for a week after Hurricane Katrina.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    What's not to hate? He left a memorial where the Twin Towers once proudly stood; he took us to war over WMD that weren't there; unemployment nearly doubled on his watch; the stock market lost about a third of its value; he led the economy to a near complete meltdown; we had to spend $700 billion just to prevent that meltdown from leading us into another Great Depression. He left a city to drown for a week after Hurricane Katrina.
    You really need to take a civics course to see how govt. works, then you need to ask yourself how Barack Obama with overwhelming control of Congress generated such miserable results? I would have thought that liberalism on full display and total control would really have our economy humming by now and yet the American people don't seem to be giving Obama a lot of credit as the polls show. Wonder who really has the disconnect, you or the majority?

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    If you read ANY of the Republican health reform bill proposals, you'd know that many of the Republican ideas were incorporated in the PPACA.
    obamacare was CRAMMED with ONE republican vote in either congress, joseph cao, the vietnamese seminarian from new orleans who lost his job on tsunami tuesday

    if States really wanted to do away with the so-called "nanny state", they'd toughen their welfare program requirements
    have you seen what cuomo and moonbeam are doing?

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Unlke many here I understand civics and that isn't what I stated and you are being dishonest in your statement. All spending is indeed controlled by Congress and the President can do very little without Congressional support, that IMO is why we went into recession in 2008 as Democrats were more concerned about regaining the WH than doing their job. Sounds like a little baiting to me and disengenuous at that. You are showing your true colors.
    OK, well if that's the case, then we should all disregard anything you say about Obama negatively affecting the economy. Thank you for the clarification.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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