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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    You keep repeating that as though that means something to you.

    It doesn't.

    In 2004, these are the results you voted for ... Twin Towers destroyed (cost us 3,000 lives), 2 million additional unemployed, invasion of Iraq over WMD that weren't there (cost us another 5,000 lives).

    If results mattered, not rhetoric, then you would never have voted for Bush in 2004. You couldn't have -- not based on those results.
    Comparing the results of Obama to 2008 don't bode well for the future nor does it bode well for the results that the American people see. When do the statute of limitations run out on blaming Bush?

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    It's not a platform. It's the truth. Can you deny that when GW Bush left office he left the country in an economic mess?

    Deflecting (once again) to campaign contributions has nothing to do with the nation's economy. So, come off that tip. If you wish to discuss who donates to which political candidate, I'd suggest you take your debate over to one of the forums that deal with partisan politics.
    No, cannot deny it but understand civics, Congress helped and Obama was in that Congress. Economists claim that TARP bailed us out and TARP was Bush's. I didn't support TARP but Bush signed it and Obama supported it.

    The talk about evil Wall Street and tying that to Conservatives is the issue here or did you forget yours and others claims? The fact is Wall Street gave more to Obama than it gave to McCain yet I keep hearing about how Wall Street is in the hip pocket of Conservatives.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Comparing the results of Obama to 2008 don't bode well for the future nor does it bode well for the results that the American people see. When do the statute of limitations run out on blaming Bush?
    When you and yours acknowledge his mistakes. Until then, I think it fair to remind people just who is (was) responsible for the country's economic mess.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    I got that number from Conservative ... take it up with him.
    The numbers came from CBO which was given them by the Obama Administration, that is how CBO works.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    When you and yours acknowledge his mistakes. Until then, I think it fair to remind people just who is (was) responsible for the country's economic mess.
    What mistakes, not reforming Freddie and Fannie along with sub prime loans and packaging those loans? Oh, Wait, Bush tried that 17 times and was defeated by a non supportive? Guess it is easier to place blame than accept responsibility for the failures of this President whose numbers are worse than Bush's after the end of a recession.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Right, and it only cost 5 trillion dollars to generate those numbers. Congratulations on outstanding results
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    Congratulations, Barack, another month where unemployment is higher than it was two years ago when you took office and it only cost us 4 trillion added to the debt to get there.
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    Wow, and yet we are still down over two million with a growing population and only spent 800 billion in stimulus to get those numbers.
    Can you make up one single number already and stick with it?




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    You must be so proud for after all it is only money and you probably didn't pay any of it.
    Not sure what you're getting at but I pay my share of taxes.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You mean putting activists Justices on the Court that makes the laws instead of interpreting the Constitution?
    Well you can't be much more activist than deciding on whether a movie about Hillary Clinton is a campaign donation and coming up a law that says corporations and unions can spend unlimited cash on elections.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    The argument about how a Republican president will reign in spending and limit government has long gone out the window - both parties spend out of their asses.
    GOP budget to cut 4.4 trillion

    Obama's budget would add $13 trillion to national debt | McClatchy

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, cannot deny it but understand civics, Congress helped and Obama was in that Congress. Economists claim that TARP bailed us out and TARP was Bush's. I didn't support TARP but Bush signed it and Obama supported it.
    It's not a "claim" that TARP was initiated by GW Bush. It is fact!!! You can say it. "GW Bush started TARP". Go on...I won't condemn you for it.

    And yes, Pres. Obama followed through on what Bush initiated. He had no choice!

    Bush purposely left TARP to be restructured once the next president assumed office. Bernanke (sp), w/Pres. Obama's oversight, made some modifications to TARP which allowed the Treasury, and by default the American taxpayers, to get back more of their investment in TARP than what was originally structured when Bush first initiated the program. In fact, just last week a few more banks made payments on their TARP loans.

    The talk about evil Wall Street and tying that to Conservatives is the issue here or did you forget yours and others claims? The fact is Wall Street gave more to Obama than it gave to McCain yet I keep hearing about how Wall Street is in the hip pocket of Conservatives.
    Again, campaign contributions isn't a partial issue of this thread topic. You're trying to make is such, but nope...not falling for it. Bring the thread topic back around...

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What mistakes, not reforming Freddie and Fannie along with sub prime loans and packaging those loans? Oh, Wait, Bush tried that 17 times and was defeated by a non supportive? Guess it is easier to place blame than accept responsibility for the failures of this President whose numbers are worse than Bush's after the end of a recession.
    Bush wanted to put Freddie and Fannie under the Treasury department so he could make them give 100% loans.

    Edit: That's one reason Rep. Frank was against the reform.
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