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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    the same effect it's always had, which is why the rate is relative. give it up.
    Uh, no, not quite, but nice try. Keep ignoring reality. That stimulus did quite a job in 2010, didn't it? Please tell me why such loyalty to Obama with results like these?


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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    The 2001 recession ended nearly 3 years before Bush's reelection.
    You made the point that Bush had a 2 million job loss in the first 45 months of his Presidency, and I asked you to tell me what factors played into that, not when his recession ended....Could you answer the question asked please?

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Look back at my post. I was talking about those not in the labor force, not just those who dropped from the labor force because they were discouraged. You then responded to my post with discouraged workers.

    And as far as discouraged workers, there were 99,000 fewer in March.


    Where's your applause? Doesn't that make you happy?
    I will applaud when the economic results reflect the results that will lower the debt and get the unemployment back to where it belongs and where it was under Clinton and Bush.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Interesting that with those terrible economic numbers that you claim exist that TX has created more jobs in the Obama economy than the rest of the country combined.
    I hope you noticed, that's without Bush as governor of Texas.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I said that about McCain... but then he had to pick Palin
    Yeah. He had my vote until he chose her.

    I'll only be voting for Obama if the GOP candidate scares the crap out of me. It's going to be 2004 all over again: Who sucks the least?
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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Fact 921,000 have been dropped from the labor force and are no longer counted as unemployed. What affect does that have on the unemployment rate?
    But they weren't all dropped in March. That number is cumulative.

    There were 99,000 fewer discouraged workers in March and the effect, along with job growth, was a lower unemployment rate.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Look back at my post. I was talking about those not in the labor force, not just those who dropped from the labor force because they were discouraged. You then responded to my post with discouraged workers.

    And as far as discouraged workers, there were 99,000 fewer in March.

    Where's your applause? Doesn't that make you happy?

    Look, I'll give a golf clap to the fact that 200K jobs were created this last month, however I remain skeptical of the metrics involved in counting these supposed jobs.

    But, the experts say that we need a sustained 250K jobs per month just to break even in those that are lost in this country. So, the 200K is a start, and a trend in the right direction, but, no where near what would be considered coming out of the recession by any means....To date, Obama is still 8 million in the hole, and increasing in jobless numbers overall.

    As to those dropping out of the job market, you see that as a good thing? Really? I see increased welfare roles, increased poor, people losing their homes, and the standard of living in this country falling....Yeah, great job.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    But they weren't all dropped in March. That number is cumulative.

    There were 99,000 fewer discouraged workers in March and the effect, along with job growth, was a lower unemployment rate.
    do not expect conservative to be rational on the subject of obama. you will be beating your head against a wall.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    But they weren't all dropped in March. That number is cumulative.

    There were 99,000 fewer discouraged workers in March and the effect, along with job growth, was a lower unemployment rate.

    It only proves statistics lie. Discouraged workers is not good at all.

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    Re: Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    do not expect conservative to be rational on the subject of obama. you will be beating your head against a wall.
    Is it rational to applaud a number being hailed as the be all and end all in jobs in this country when it is based on a lie?

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