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    Re: Opponents start push to repeal Ohio union law

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    Is your name Dan?
    No I just think all government employee unions should have to follow the same rules

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    Re: Opponents start push to repeal Ohio union law

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    No I just think all government employee unions should have to follow the same rules
    In every single state?

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    Re: Opponents start push to repeal Ohio union law

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBook View Post
    People wanted fiscal conservatism, so they voted in Republicans. The Republicans are now going after social, partisan issues under the veil of fiscal responsibility (Planned Parenthood, Union busting, etc.) and ignoring the issues they were voted in on. It's extremely disappointing.

    It is the correct thing to do. I am sick of the democrats using tax payer money to fund their special interest groups

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    Re: Opponents start push to repeal Ohio union law

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    In every single state?


    Yes all government employee unions. It makes a level and equal playing field for all government employees

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    Re: Opponents start push to repeal Ohio union law

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Yes all government employee unions. It makes a level and equal playing field for all government employees
    So I hope you do understand, that because of that you'd have to use the Federal Government to mandate that all State Employees not have the right to Bargaining rights... meaning YOU just increased the role of the Federal Government instead of allowing it to be a states right issue...

    Because shouldn't it be up to the state to decide whether they give workers those rights or not?

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    Re: Opponents start push to repeal Ohio union law

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    So I hope you do understand, that because of that you'd have to use the Federal Government to mandate that all State Employees not have the right to Bargaining rights... meaning YOU just increased the role of the Federal Government instead of allowing it to be a states right issue...

    Because shouldn't it be up to the state to decide whether they give workers those rights or not?
    No I did not say that. I said they should have those same rules that gives the feds no power. all states adopt those rules and all unions have the same rules to follow. You of course have to find a false scenario to try and show the unions should not have to do that. i doubt it will happen but it would make it fair for all.

    My question is why is this okay for the feds but not states?

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    Re: Opponents start push to repeal Ohio union law

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    No I did not say that. I said they should have those same rules that gives the feds no power. all states adopt those rules and all unions have the same rules to follow. You of course have to find a false scenario to try and show the unions should not have to do that. i doubt it will happen but it would make it fair for all.

    My question is why is this okay for the feds but not states?
    It's a legitimate question. And one I raised in my first post in this thread.

    I'm just finding it difficult to understand how you're going to convince every single state to adopt the same mantra without using the Federal Government.

    Again I ask you.

    Shouldn't it be up to the state in question to decide whether or not state workers have these kinds of rights?

    Because the only way to implement such a plan nation wide is to use the Federal Government. Not every state will go along with it.

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    Re: Opponents start push to repeal Ohio union law

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    It is the correct thing to do. I am sick of the democrats using tax payer money to fund their special interest groups
    Are you sick of Republicans doing the same thing, or just Democrats?
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    Re: Opponents start push to repeal Ohio union law

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBook View Post
    People wanted fiscal conservatism, so they voted in Republicans. The Republicans are now going after social, partisan issues under the veil of fiscal responsibility (Planned Parenthood, Union busting, etc.) and ignoring the issues they were voted in on. It's extremely disappointing.
    Cutting funding for Abortions and cutting bloated union slob salaries, gold plated health care, diamond inlayed pensions is fiscal responsibility in my book..........

    .......the disappointment you speak of.......at least from the people who voted them in........is that they are not cutting enough.
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    Re: Opponents start push to repeal Ohio union law

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    In Wisconsin they have recalls, and in Ohio they have referendums. In both cases, the result is a poison pill for the Republican party, which is going to suffer for it's slap in the face of the will of the American people.

    I was pretty excited when the Democrats were thrown from power. Like Bush, they were continuing to spend America off a cliff. Republicans came in, promising to restore America's spending habits, and end the fiscal insanity that had rocked the nation for the last 10 years. What did they do instead? They went after unions.

    At the national level, the GOP is making a pretense of trying to balance the budget, but their attempt to bust the CWA, by (get this) passing a law in the House which says anyone that doesn't vote in a union election is actually voting NO (George Orwell anybody?), created a backlash among the majority of Americans who support unions.

    At the state level, the GOP launched coordinated attacks at the same time in Wisconsin, Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, New Jersey, Nevada, and other states, in an attempt to bust unions. Why? Because unions traditionally support Democrats. Their cynical and psychopathic use of political power against American citizens has resulted in Cheesehead Armageddon, as Wisconsinites have mobilized resources to "throw the bums out". And yet, the GOP has the audacity to call Americans exercising their Constitutional rights to a democratic process "thuggery". Who are the thugs? The unions? How about the Koch Brothers, and other corporate interests, along with their Republican lackeys, who are attempting to subvert the will of the people, under the guise of balancing the budget? In Wisconsin this lie has been exposed by their own actions. What of the budgetary items in Walker's plan? They have still yet to be passed, and are languishing in Congress, while the union busting provisions were ruthlessly shoved down the throats of Wisconsinites. There is your smoking gun, folks.

    Is it any wonder that Americans have buyers' remorse when it comes to the 2010 elections? The GOP has lost Wisconsin, as total recall is in full swing. In Ohio, a referendum is going to make it onto the ballot, and people are pissed at Republicans there too. The first shots of slash and burn class warfare have been fired by the GOP, and the people are responding. Right now, it sucks to be a Republican.

    The first Republican presidential debate, scheduled for this May, has been rescheduled, due to lack of interest. Only ONE potential candidate pledged to show up. Do you think the rest of them know something he doesn't? After all, who in their right mind wants to run on the platform that has exposed itself in America? At this juncture, I would have to say to Republicans "Congratulations. You have just handed the White House to Obama and the Democrats in 2012, and on a silver platter too". Americans might want balanced budgets, but they don't want "bat**** crazy".

    Article is here.
    This makes me quite happy, to see people out there being politically active, fighting for themselves and the future American worker!
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