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    Re: US Republican budget plan would cut $5.8 trln in 10 yrs

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    The stock market is in some imaginary world right now.

    In case you haven't noticed, the stock market has been creeping up and up despite all calls to the contrary because it's being propped up by the Feds.

    I don't count the stock market as the "system" although it is a component.
    The market doesn't need to go up as much as it needs to firm up.

    No one believes in it right now, whatever it does. It's like a craps table right now with a bunch of drunken bettors at 2 a.m.

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    Re: US Republican budget plan would cut $5.8 trln in 10 yrs

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Up to now, there is a lack of liberal response to this.

    Looks like the GOP came through on it's promises and a real budget cut is in the works which will make the left look really bad because they couldn't do it.
    Exactly and what is also good about it the GOP is doing their job of actually proposing a budget for 2012 after the Democrats shirked their responsibility for no presenting one for 2011. In addition Republicans are attacking the debt head on and "not kicking the can down the road" as previous Republicans have done and Democrats continue to do. Let the whining begin from the left and the dependent class.

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    Re: US Republican budget plan would cut $5.8 trln in 10 yrs

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post

    Eliminate Medicare? Shift costs to the elderly and the poor? Most of the savings come after a decade? You have to admire politicians determined to drink this kool-aid. Bottoms up!
    Typical liberal response based upon emotion and total lack of understanding on your part of what is being proposed. Suggest you read the debt commission report instead of making wild accusations on something you don't understand.

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    Re: US Republican budget plan would cut $5.8 trln in 10 yrs

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    The stock market is in some imaginary world right now.

    In case you haven't noticed, the stock market has been creeping up and up despite all calls to the contrary because it's being propped up by the Feds.

    I don't count the stock market as the "system" although it is a component.
    There is a reason the stock market is up where it is today and it has everything to do with the Feds pumping money into it and purchasing U.S. Treasuries. It is artificial and destined for a major fall.

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    Re: US Republican budget plan would cut $5.8 trln in 10 yrs

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    As soon as they unveil the program, the left will be cryin' for the chilllllldrennnnnn!!!!! They're just waiting for the bullseye to go up.
    Here's Ryan's response

    The Coming Budget War: Barack Obama Vs. Paul Ryan - Yahoo! News
    [QUOTE]“We are giving [Democrats] a political weapon against us, but look, they’re going to have to lie and demagogue,” Ryan admits. “Shame on them if they do that.”“We need to engage with the American people on a fact-based budget, on stopping politicians from making empty promises to people and talk to the country about what is necessary to fix these problems,” he tells Fox.
    How the entrenched powers in both parties respond to his plan will tell the tale: Is Paul Ryan the last honest broker in Washington? [/QUOTE]
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    Re: US Republican budget plan would cut $5.8 trln in 10 yrs

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    There is a reason the stock market is up where it is today and it has everything to do with the Feds pumping money into it and purchasing U.S. Treasuries. It is artificial and destined for a major fall.
    Something we can agree on.

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    Re: GOP 2012 budget to make $4 trillion-plus in cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    US Republican budget plan would cut $5.8 trln in 10 yrs

    Reuters) - A Republican budget plan due to be unveiled on Tuesday would cut $5.8 trillion from U.S. spending over the next 10 years, a congressional aide familiar with the proposal said on Monday.

    The plan, which would take effect when the next fiscal year starts on Oct. 1, is expected to propose sweeping changes to the Medicare and Medicaid health programs, as well as hard caps on government spending and tax cuts....
    Interesting. I wonder if that means they plan to cut back Medicare reimbursements to the point that doctors won't accept Medicare patients? How can they justify tax cuts as a part of the plan to balance the budget ? Is this for real, or just another example of political gamesmanship? Stay tuned, folks, it's not over yet.
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    Re: US Republican budget plan would cut $5.8 trln in 10 yrs

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    So far, the main issue I see with the plan is that there is really nothing in it that will help reduce or at least control healthcare costs. It simply cuts the governments costs, while assuming that the market will cause insurance costs to go down. This never works, what is needed is something to prevent the waste in the medical system that causes costs to continuously rise.
    Actually raising out of pocket expenses on Medicare recipients should help bend the cost curve.
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    Re: US Republican budget plan would cut $5.8 trln in 10 yrs

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Actually raising out of pocket expenses on Medicare recipients should help bend the cost curve.
    Increasing routine payments, such as visit copays tends to work rather well according to data I have seen.

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    Re: US Republican budget plan would cut $5.8 trln in 10 yrs

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    There is a reason the stock market is up where it is today and it has everything to do with the Feds pumping money into it and purchasing U.S. Treasuries. It is artificial and destined for a major fall.
    Don't forget Bush tax cuts remained in place.
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