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    Re: GOP 2012 budget to make $4 trillion-plus in cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No. The flat tax is nothing more than a veiled attempt to cut taxes even further for the wealthiest Americans. I prefer a return to the pre-Reagan days, before Reagan raised taxes on the working class and cut taxes of the wealthiest Americans in half.

    Remember those days, when the people of this country could actually afford to buy a home, the "American dream" was alive and well and a two parent working home was a luxury not a necessity?

    Remember those days?.....Reagan and the so called "Family values" party but an end to that, took parents out of the homes, created generations of latch key kids and have bankrupted this once great country.
    I remember sitting in long lines at the gas pump. I remember my dad working 3 jobs to make ends meet. I remember unemployment being a big problem. I remember the Iranian hostage crisis. Ahh, those days before Reagan - they were great weren't they?

    Welfare (Food Stamps, WIC, etc...) are not entitlements. They are taxpayer funded handouts and shouldn't be called entitlements at all. Social Security and Veteran's benefits are 'Entitlements' because the people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid for by the recipients.

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    Re: GOP 2012 budget to make $4 trillion-plus in cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Akston View Post
    I remember sitting in long lines at the gas pump. I remember my dad working 3 jobs to make ends meet. I remember unemployment being a big problem. I remember the Iranian hostage crisis. Ahh, those days before Reagan - they were great weren't they?

    LOL...I take it you probably conviently forgot "My heart wants to believe I didn't lie to the American people, but the facts and evidence say otherwise"...Ronald "Iran/Contra" Reagan....right?
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    Re: GOP 2012 budget to make $4 trillion-plus in cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL...I take it you probably conviently forgot "My heart wants to believe I didn't lie to the American people, but the facts and evidence say otherwise"...Ronald "Iran/Contra" Reagan....right?
    Where were you when this was discussed on the various Reagan threads? Why would you hijack this thread to argue about Reagan? Typical diversion when the topic confuses you.

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    Re: GOP 2012 budget to make $4 trillion-plus in cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Where were you when this was discussed on the various Reagan threads? Why would you hijack this thread to argue about Reagan? Typical diversion when the topic confuses you.
    No....follow along. This isn't the deflect and deny style that you are a master at. If you followed the context...you would see that there was a discussion going on about what type of tax system I believe would be beneficial to the country. I mentioned that I would like to see a return to the pre-Reagan big tax cut for the wealthy days, when people could afford to buy a home, something many people cannot do any more due to the redistribution of wealth under Reagan/Bush.

    So c'mon con...if you wanna join the party...bring something to the table....other than your usual.
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    Re: GOP 2012 budget to make $4 trillion-plus in cuts

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    GOP 2012 budget to make  trillion-plus in cutsCease with the personal attacks or else.
    Welfare (Food Stamps, WIC, etc...) are not entitlements. They are taxpayer funded handouts and shouldn't be called entitlements at all. Social Security and Veteran's benefits are 'Entitlements' because the people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid for by the recipients.

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    Re: GOP 2012 budget to make $4 trillion-plus in cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No....follow along. This isn't the deflect and deny style that you are a master at. If you followed the context...you would see that there was a discussion going on about what type of tax system I believe would be beneficial to the country. I mentioned that I would like to see a return to the pre-Reagan big tax cut for the wealthy days, when people could afford to buy a home, something many people cannot do any more due to the redistribution of wealth under Reagan/Bush.

    So c'mon con...if you wanna join the party...bring something to the table....other than your usual.
    Ok, so how much revenue would a huge tax on the wealthy generate for the govt remembering we have a 14.3 trillion dollar debt? Seems that high tax rates in your world trump actual revenue generated? Did revenue go up from Federal Income Taxes during the Reagan years with a 10-10-5% income tax rate reduction? Do higher tax rates mean higher tax revenue? What do those evil rich and corporations do with the revenue they get from lower tax rates? You really need to get out of that liberal box and think bigger picture.

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    Re: GOP 2012 budget to make $4 trillion-plus in cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL...I take it you probably conviently forgot "My heart wants to believe I didn't lie to the American people, but the facts and evidence say otherwise"...Ronald "Iran/Contra" Reagan....right?
    What does Iran/Contra have to do with any of this? Reagan was far from perfect, but he is the best President we've had in my lifetime. Nice try at deflecting though.
    Welfare (Food Stamps, WIC, etc...) are not entitlements. They are taxpayer funded handouts and shouldn't be called entitlements at all. Social Security and Veteran's benefits are 'Entitlements' because the people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid for by the recipients.

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    Re: GOP 2012 budget to make $4 trillion-plus in cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Akston View Post
    What does Iran/Contra have to do with any of this? Reagan was far from perfect, but he is the best President we've had in my lifetime. Nice try at deflecting though.
    Second worst in my lifetime.
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    Re: GOP 2012 budget to make $4 trillion-plus in cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I dunno...why don't you ask GE and all the other corporations who take billions in government handouts and don't pay a cent in taxes.
    oh, that upsets you? tell us, then, what your feelings are on the House 2012 budget closing those loopholes and ending corporate welfare?

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    Re: GOP 2012 budget to make $4 trillion-plus in cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL...I take it you probably conviently forgot "My heart wants to believe I didn't lie to the American people, but the facts and evidence say otherwise"...Ronald "Iran/Contra" Reagan....right?
    yeah......


    tell me again how an arms selling scandal somehow negates the point that the nation was headed downards under carter, and reagan turned it around?

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