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    Re: Stalemate in Libya Increasingly Viewed as Likely Outcome

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    First I can't see Gaddafi allowing this to be drawn out into another Iraq.

    Next Obama has already made it clear that he is great at hit and run after you really get the Rebels hopes up.

    My way this would have been over in a heart beat or lack thereof.

    Gaddafi would be dead and that would signal game over.
    0bama missed an opportunity early on.

    Gaddafi should have had a missile down his pie hole weeks ago.

    If that had happened this thing would be over IMO.
    The national security of the United States can never be left in the hands of liberals.

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    Re: Stalemate in Libya Increasingly Viewed as Likely Outcome

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    0bama missed an opportunity early on.

    Gaddafi should have had a missile down his pie hole weeks ago.

    If that had happened this thing would be over IMO.
    We would be better served if we stopped trying to police the world. It gets us few friends and a lot of enemies. We should simplify things. If you aren't against us, you may not be on our friend list, but at least you aren't on the enemy ledger.

    America must change its foreign policy across the board. If we believe in individual freedom, then unless we're hypocritical, other nations have the right to decide what form of government they want.

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    Re: Stalemate in Libya Increasingly Viewed as Likely Outcome

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    If that had happened this thing would be over IMO.
    thank you

    in my opinion, the removal of gadaffi would spell just the beginning

    what we break we own

    ie, NATION BUILDING

    in LIBYA, of all places

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    Re: Stalemate in Libya Increasingly Viewed as Likely Outcome

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    We would be better served if we stopped trying to police the world. It gets us few friends and a lot of enemies. We should simplify things. If you aren't against us, you may not be on our friend list, but at least you aren't on the enemy ledger.

    America must change its foreign policy across the board. If we believe in individual freedom, then unless we're hypocritical, other nations have the right to decide what form of government they want.
    I don't believe we are trying to police the whole world just those parts where we can have a positive effect.

    Today the Ivory Coast erupted in violence and the UN sent in French peacekeepers. I don't want the US involved in any part of that conflict. There is no good outcome there. Both sides are worthless. Same goes for Darfur.
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    Re: Stalemate in Libya Increasingly Viewed as Likely Outcome

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    thank you

    in my opinion, the removal of gadaffi would spell just the beginning

    what we break we own

    ie, NATION BUILDING

    in LIBYA, of all places
    It would spell the begining.

    Hopefully the beginning of a free and peaceful Lybia.
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    Re: Stalemate in Libya Increasingly Viewed as Likely Outcome

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    I don't believe we are trying to police the whole world just those parts where we can have a positive effect.
    The central point here is to limit our activity in the ME. Lets not try to create democracies or even tear down dictatorships unless they become a threat to American interests, which are largely described as our people.

    If Tom, Dick or Harry teh bearded dude wants to oppress their own people, but don't chop off American heads or help those who do, we gotta leave them alone. We can't fix all their problems and removing one dictator is just as likely to result in another one who is anti-American.

    Think of it as musical chairs with dictators sitting on 'em. Its a never ending cycle of despair

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    Re: Stalemate in Libya Increasingly Viewed as Likely Outcome

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    The central point here is to limit our activity in the ME. Lets not try to create democracies or even tear down dictatorships unless they become a threat to American interests, which are largely described as our people.
    It's in our national interest to have as many free and peaceful nations in the world as possible.

    Where there is a chance to change a dictatorship into a free nation we should always take that chance.

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Think of it as musical chairs with dictators sitting on 'em. Its a never ending cycle of despair
    That's a good analogy and IMO that applies to nations like the Ivory Coast and Darfur.

    The liberation of the South Korean people was worth the sacrifice.
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    Re: Stalemate in Libya Increasingly Viewed as Likely Outcome

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    We would be better served if we stopped trying to police the world. It gets us few friends and a lot of enemies. We should simplify things. If you aren't against us, you may not be on our friend list, but at least you aren't on the enemy ledger.

    America must change its foreign policy across the board. If we believe in individual freedom, then unless we're hypocritical, other nations have the right to decide what form of government they want.
    I don't have a problem with the U.S. policing the knot-heads of the world. However, I do have a problem when we do it half-assed, as we've seen here.

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    Re: Stalemate in Libya Increasingly Viewed as Likely Outcome

    Libya will be another Egypt.

    Recall the efforts to get rid of that 'thug' Mubarak so that Egyptians would be free and democracy flourish?

    Egypt extends olive branch to Iran; seeks to normalize ties - International Business Times

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    Re: Stalemate in Libya Increasingly Viewed as Likely Outcome

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Libya will be another Egypt.

    Recall the efforts to get rid of that 'thug' Mubarak so that Egyptians would be free and democracy flourish?
    Where the hell is the leader of the free world? We need strong leadership right now.

    0bama is missing an opportunity to take advantage of the uprisings all over the ME.

    I can hear the jihadis now: "See, the infidel doesn't care about you. We can help you. Join us."
    The national security of the United States can never be left in the hands of liberals.

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