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Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

By the same logic, would those who say that Pastor Jones is blameless admit that liberals/media/hippies were not responsible for us losing in Vietnam? They were exercising their 1st Amendment rights, after all...

Excellent point.
 
So their actions are inexcusable, but not quite.

Do you think there have been terrorist acts in the past, committed by Muslims, which had nothing to do with that Florida preacher?

What was the excuse for terrorism then, and who was to blame? Who was the 'catalyst' those times?

Congratulations on not reading!

Try again next time!

Nowhere did I make an excuse for the past terrorist acts of others, all I said was that Jones served as a catalyst for what occurred.
 
True, if the Jihadis who perpetrated this atrocity believed in freedom of speech (or freedom of anything, probably), if they were rational people, then the Koran burning stunt wouldn't have set them off. But, they don't believe in freedom, they are nuts, and were known to be nuts before Reverend Bonkers decided to stage his silly stunt. That's the point. He deliberately set off a riot, and should be accountable for having done so. Why did he stage his absurd publicity stunt if not to set off a violent riot?

Do you think we should cave when terrorists make threats?
 
We need a sneakily worded poll to lead us to some 'explosive' conclusions. Did you know that 20% of Americans in WWII were for the elimination of the Japanese race in it's entirety.

I wonder what percentage today would be for the elimination of all Muslims? Probably not much different.
 
No I don't know the percentage - I know that some Muslims are terrorists. What's your point?

Because knowing that some Muslims are terrorists is the point.

Yet, despite knowing that some Muslims are terrorists, on another thread you used the word "bigot" when the people of a small community wanted to know more about a mosque being built.
 
Because knowing that some Muslims are terrorists is the point.

Yet, despite knowing that some Muslims are terrorists, on another thread you used the word "bigot" when the people of a small community wanted to know more about a mosque being built.

I just searched theplaydrive + "bigot" and as I suspected, I have never used the word bigot on this forum.

Nonetheless, what does another thread have to do with this one?
 
They're still pissed over the Crusades!

Meh I guess I can't really talk about holding grudges since I still believe Saurez should be put up against a wall and shot for the Ghana game :2razz:

Oooooh yeah I'm still bitter! :mrgreen:
 
The Islam people? There are Muslims here. They have been fighting and dying for our country since the get go. You are not meaning to say the Islam people I don't think.
The problem is, the islam people do NOT believe in free speech! This is immoral, because it is a fundamental human right, and they quite literally are killing to silence it.

If the islamic people had any respect for free speech this would NOT of happened.
 
So Patreaus is wrong headed to have asked the Pastor(don't know how he became one) Not to do this?
I condemn the pastor for being so hateful he'd a burn the Koran. I don't place any blame on him for the dispicable actions of hatefilled murderous radical Muslims.
 
There ya go. Proof positive you cannot condemn Jones. I gave you a wide open chance to simply do it and that is why you laugh. Because you know you can't. Thanks for making my point.
lol, no, it's applying to logic to other circumstances to show the merits of what you are arguing for.
 
There ya go. Proof positive you cannot condemn Jones. I gave you a wide open chance to simply do it and that is why you laugh. Because you know you can't. Thanks for making my point.

Disagreeing with your logic is not the same as condoning someone's actions

learn to think
 
lol...The ones that are saying what, the Pastor did was to give these savages a reason to do anything violent - you are only legitimizing their actions.

If they were reasonable human beings what, the Pastor did would have little to no affect on them, might make them a little pissed off or maybe write a hateful letter to a local paper, but that is the extent of it.

Everything should die there............BUT NOOOOOO!!! the Afghans accept gratuitous murder better than Koran burning. Why? They have been killing members of different tribes and ethnic groups for centuries with little or no rational reason or remorse
 
Still can't do it. And do you notice that you haven't in the entire thread. All you will say is he has the right. Sad that you can't simply condemn the stupidity of this arrogant fool.
Disagreeing with your logic is not the same as condoning someone's actions

learn to think
 
But they are not reasonable human beings. This is simply covering for Jones. I think it's because somewhere inside you are happy he tweeked Muslims. General Patreaus knew this would cause him difficulty and endanger our men and woman but you don't care as long as Jones has his way.
lol...The ones that are saying what, the Pastor did was to give these savages a reason to do anything violent - you are only legitimizing their actions.

If they were reasonable human beings what, the Pastor did would have little to no affect on them, might make them a little pissed off or maybe write a hateful letter to a local paper, but that is the extent of it.

Everything should die there............BUT NOOOOOO!!! the Afghans accept gratuitous murder better than Koran burning. Why? They have been killing members of different tribes and ethnic groups for centuries with little or no rational reason or remorse
 
Are people being told they should limit their criticism of the tea party movement because tea party members are expected to then kill somebody completely unrelated? How about Democrats -- should we be careful to not say anything because our basic expectation is that Democrats will then go on a murderous rampage? Are Scientologists off limits? Buddhists? ANY ideology at all except just this one?

Anybody? Anybody? Bueller?
 
I'd protect the right's of a Quran burning American any day over Extreme decapitating Muslims who want to silence free speech.
 
lol...The ones that are saying what, the Pastor did was to give these savages a reason to do anything violent - you are only legitimizing their actions.

If they were reasonable human beings what, the Pastor did would have little to no affect on them, might make them a little pissed off or maybe write a hateful letter to a local paper, but that is the extent of it.

Everything should die there............BUT NOOOOOO!!! the Afghans accept gratuitous murder better than Koran burning. Why? They have been killing members of different tribes and ethnic groups for centuries with little or no rational reason or remorse

LOL at you not being able to read.

The argument is not that their actions are legitimate. The argument is that the Pastor had been warned that burning a book could provoke the violent people and chose to do it anyway, which makes him stupid. LOL.
 
But they are not reasonable human beings. This is simply covering for Jones. I think it's because somewhere inside you are happy he tweeked Muslims. General Patreaus knew this would cause him difficulty and endanger our men and woman but you don't care as long as Jones has his way.

Mike - Its time to end this.....

From a Muslim point of view, Jones didn't really burn a Koran, Mike. Muslims believe that the Koran only exists in Arabic and there is no such thing as a "translation" of it.

Any translation is considered an interpretation and not the real book.

What did Jones burn?
 
Are people being told they should limit their criticism of the tea party movement because tea party members are expected to then kill somebody completely unrelated? How about Democrats -- should we be careful to not say anything because our basic expectation is that Democrats will then go on a murderous rampage? Are Scientologists off limits? Buddhists? ANY ideology at all except just this one?

Anybody? Anybody? Bueller?

Tea partiers are only crazy according the Democrats, and Democrats are only crazy according to tea partiers. Neither one is crazy enough to go on a killing rampage over a supposed slight.
 
So Patreaus is wrong headed to have asked the Pastor(don't know how he became one) Not to do this?

If I recall, many on this board said he shouldn't do it. That doesn't make him guilty of a crime just because he didn't listen to good advice.
 
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