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Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

OhIsee.Then said:
I care that a pastor would successfully set up a situation where we could rant with religious indignation comparing the burning of a koran to the murder of 12 people. The murder is important to me. Where it’s going is scary.
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I think Jones nothing but a media whore, but do you really believe he could have foreseen people storming a UN compound and killing 12 people?
 
Kali said:
Terry Jones needs his old rusty ass handed to him on a rusty silver platter with rusty nails driven into his nasty ass just for kicks. This man is nasty and do not deserve air much less a tecna/Tetanus shot.

He pretty much does not deserve anything but death ( you know the kind of DEATH!!!!!! he brought to others with his mess! ) or hospitalization.
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No Kali, people are responsible for their own actions.
 
Laila said:
He knew of the reaction he would get and still did it to get the reaction.

That makes him as responsible morally imo
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I think he thought if anything, they would come after him. Wouldn't that make more sense? Or why didn't they just say neener neener neener, we're going to burn a stack of bibles.
I think the guy is an idiot and even though he had a right to do it, he shouldn't have. He is still not to blame for anything.
If Muslims get killed for building a mosque so close to ground zero, are we going to blame the Muslims for building for building there? After all, they have a right to, it's just not the right thing to do.
 
X Factor said:
I think Jones nothing but a media whore, but do you really believe he could have foreseen people storming a UN compound and killing 12 people?
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No way could he have foreseen people storming a UN compound and killing 12 people.
Way, he did foresee some extremist muslims killing someone, preferably christians; and I bet he prayed it would happen. (And I’ll bet he thinks he scored big since the christians were working in a UN facility, i.e. bad christians.)
 
X Factor said:
Couldn't the same argument be made about the Ground Zero mosque? Rauf has a right to build it, but is he showing good judgment in exercising his right?
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Yup. Same concept.
 
iamitter said:
No one in america would get upset if I went and burned a couple hundred bibles?
I mean, I didn't do anything wrong, right?
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I would think you were an ass and disrespectful. The same as I would if you burned our flag. End of story. No action taken against you or anyone else.
 
Barbbtx said:
I think he thought if anything, they would come after him. Wouldn't that make more sense? Or why didn't they just say neener neener neener, we're going to burn a stack of bibles.
I think the guy is an idiot and even though he had a right to do it, he shouldn't have. He is still not to blame for anything.
If Muslims get killed for building a mosque so close to ground zero, are we going to blame the Muslims for building for building there? After all, they have a right to, it's just not the right thing to do.
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Because I heard Afghan's have a easy time getting into the United States .... right?

Hell Europeans have a hard time getting visa's. What do you think is the likelihood Afghan civilians getting a ticket into US?

For a "Christian". I hope he feels guilt. His actions will have consequences in ME.
I just feel an endless amount of pity for Christians in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
 
Kali said:
Terry Jones needs his old rusty ass handed to him on a rusty silver platter with rusty nails driven into his nasty ass just for kicks. This man is nasty and do not deserve air much less a tecna/Tetanus shot.

He pretty much does not deserve anything but death ( you know the kind of DEATH!!!!!! he brought to others with his mess! ) or hospitalization.
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And the worst part is everyone seems to have forgotten the real victims; Those damned poor Afghans forced to perform cut-rate skullsectomies.


Lol, it's like some of you people think of Afghans as mindless automatons, who lack self awareness and thought
 
William Rea said:
Yup, having the right to do something does not mean it is the responsible thing to do.
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I find it interesting that there are some people that don't understand that these are two separate concepts. It can be completely legal for me to do something. Doesn't mean that doing so is a good idea and won't yield consequences that I or others may not like.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
I find it interesting that there are some people that don't understand that these are two separate concepts. It can be completely legal for me to do something. Doesn't mean that doing so is a good idea and won't yield consequences that I or others may not like.
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I really don't think people should be held to the demands of crazy people and extremists. It's like Rauf with his community center; it's crazy to demand he move it because of how some assholes might react, and works to allow these forces to curtail civil rights
 
ManofthPeephole said:
I really don't think people should be held to the demands of crazy people and extremists. It's like Rauf with his community center. It's crazy to demand he move it because of how some assholes might react, and works to these forces curtailing cilvil rights
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There is a difference between what is legal and what is smart. I don't think that, legally, either Jones or Rauf should be held to the demands of others... extremists or not. Both of them did or are doing something entirely legal. That doesn't make what they did or are doing intelligent or responsible. Neither are, IMO.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
There is a difference between what is legal and what is smart. I don't think that, legally, either Jones or Rauf should be held to the demands of others... extremists or not. Both of them did or are doing something entirely legal. That doesn't make what they did or are doing intelligent or responsible. Neither are, IMO.
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No matter if you voluntarily relinquish your rights, due to fear, or they are taken from you by force, the end result is always the same.
 
ManofthPeephole said:
No matter if you voluntarily relinquish your rights, due to fear, or they are taken from you by force, the end result is always the same.
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There is a difference between relinquishing your rights and choosing not to exercise them. Discretion is often the prudent action.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
There is a difference between relinquishing your rights and choosing not to exercise them. Discretion is often the prudent action.
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not if you're relinquishing them out of fear. Because that means you don't have the right
 
thats what some people in us cannot understand, you think the only truth is yours, after all you are more adavancek country in the world, he?; so that gives you every right; for example some people in US brag about their democracy , freedom etc. , but the same poeple could publicly examine others religion ; like trumhp's examining the religion of Obama, it is very dramatic, cuz that man is the candidate for The presidency...

btw it is not just a book, it is guide of muslims sent by Allah; being respectful of other is that hard for some people in us?
 
ManofthPeephole said:
not if you're relinquishing them out of fear. Because that means you don't have the right
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No it doesn't. You still have the right. You are just choosing not to exercise it because you understand that the consequences of exercising it might be more than you want.
 
soguks said:
thats what some people in us cannot understand, you think the only truth is yours, after all you are more adavancek country in the world, he?; so that gives you every right; for example some people in US brag about their democracy , freedom etc. , but the same poeple could publicly examine others religion ; like trumhp's examining the religion of Obama, it is very dramatic, cuz that man is the candidate for The presidency...

btw it is not just a book, it is guide of muslims sent by Allah; being respectful of other is that hard for some people in us?
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Is it so hard for some Muslims to respect human life or the beliefs and freedoms of others?
 
soguks said:
thats what some people in us cannot understand, you think the only truth is yours, after all you are more adavancek country in the world, he?; so that gives you every right; for example some people in US brag about their democracy , freedom etc. , but the same poeple could publicly examine others religion ; like trumhp's examining the religion of Obama, it is very dramatic, cuz that man is the candidate for The presidency...

btw it is not just a book, it is guide of muslims sent by Allah; being respectful of other is that hard for some people in us?
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why do you feel that I need to respect something you feel is sacred?
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
No it doesn't. You still have the right. You are just choosing not to exercise it because you understand that the consequences of exercising it might be more than you want.
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right, the fear of violence should make me not do something. As i said, under such circumstances you don't have those rights
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
There is a difference between relinquishing your rights and choosing not to exercise them. Discretion is often the prudent action.
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What harm did Reverend Jones suffer as a result of his choice to exercise his freedom?

None.

Therefore there was no reason for him to refrain. Start telling yourself that Jones bears NO responsibility for crackpots in Afghanistan.
 
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