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Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

KORAN BOOK BARBECUE and ALLAH CARTOON CONTEST tonight at 8:00 at my place.........

.....everyone is invited.......even you libtards.....as long as you promise not to kill anyone in the name of Radical Islam--The Only Religon Ever Defended By The Left.
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PeteEU said:
He is no man of god. He is as cold blooded as the murders in Afghanistan. He knew exactly what he was doing and what reaction there would be against it. He provoked the murders of Afghanistan and should stand trial for at least man-slaughter if not out right murder. Alternatively he should be extradited to Afghanistan or any Muslim nation who wants him and let them deal with his hatemongering.
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It appears to me that the media also knew exactly what they we doing as well, waiting for more red meat.
 
If jones wants retibution I will burn a bible for him...
Laila said:
He knew of the reaction he would get and still did it to get the reaction.

That makes him as responsible morally imo
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Mayor Snorkum said:
No.

He burned a book.

That's it.

He is not responsible for the insane reactions of devotees of an unsane religion 12,000 miles away.
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Yes he is. Just as if you get into a cage with a Lion and poke it with a stick and get eaten.

First it makes you a real dumb-ass second it's not the lions fault because you knew it was a lion and Jones knew the result would be massive protests and he also knew that he was putting himself and other's lives at risk.

He was told over and over again.

He's a damn fool and will get his in the end. He is also a crook for taking the car for not burning the Koran knowing he would get to it later.

I have no respect for this jerk.
 
danarhea said:
If he knew in advance that burning a Koran would lead to murder, then yes, he is a murderer too. It's not much different than a Mafia Don saying that someone needs to be rubbed out, and then others go and do the killing for him. Technically, the Mafia Don is just as innocent as this hate mongering pastor.
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The Mafia don has clear authority and is ordering a crime, in the later the death is caused by the irrational actions of others.
 
Mikeyy said:
You say These Muslims are insane. If you know that why tweek them? Do you tweek insane people here in this country just to see if they go off? Like I said before, Terry Jones can get his ass on a plane and go to a Muslim country and do this sort of stuff. See how long his little games last there. If an American soldier dies because an "insane" Muslim was upset about this you know he will take no responsability. Just like he doesn't now. Ya know Charles Manson is in prison for the rest of his life. Why? because he talked other people in to killing people. He didn't kill anyone but he drugged people up and helped it happen. If you don't think Jones is responable for anything we might as well let Charlie out too.
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Someone could excuse the violence of the KKK and how civil rights activists were treated, by appealing to the same logic

Also, there is a stark difference to ordering a murder, and having someone react irrationally to an exercise of free speech
 
Why do you keep expecting someone in Afghanistan to understand our notion of free speech? And again you ignore the point of Jones action by simply covering it with the free speech clause. There is more to this then his right to free speech. Nobody has asserted he didn't have a right. It is why he exercised it that is in question.
ManofthPeephole said:
Someone could excuse the violence of the KKK and how civil rights activists were treated, by appealing to the same logic

Also, there is a stark difference to ordering a murder, and having someone react irrationally to an exercise of free speech
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Mikeyy said:
Why do you keep expecting someone in Afghanistan to understand our notion of free speech? And again you ignore the point of Jones action by simply covering it with the free speech clause. There is more to this then his right to free speech. Nobody has asserted he didn't have a right. It is why he exercised it that is in question.
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It's like you lack the ability to comprehend type-face: blaming the reaction on instigation, due to an act that harms no one, but deeply offends, can be used to excuse all manner of things, from attacking interracial couples, to some guy at a baseball game wearing the wrong hat. The argument is stupid on it's face.

The aspect of free speech was raised to differentiate the act in question from the ordering of a murder. Which isn't constitutionally protected, because there is a clear and expected outcome to ordering a murder (your Charles Manson example)
 
Mikeyy said:
Why do you keep expecting someone in Afghanistan to understand our notion of free speech?
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I don't expect them to, but, how would they feel if we started killing Muslims everytime someone in Afghanistan burned an American Flag? The moral of the story? They need to grow up and get with the program.


And again you ignore the point of Jones action by simply covering it with the free speech clause. There is more to this then his right to free speech. Nobody has asserted he didn't have a right. It is why he exercised it that is in question.
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It almost sounds as if you're arguing that there should be something in place to keep Jones from doing this.
 
In regards to Jones and the people in Afganistan who committed those murders, we see the example of religious extremism. Extremists in all theirs forms are dangerous, in my opinion. Being an adherant of a religion is not a bad thing, and in most cases shows a concern for community and a need for introspection that can be deeply fullfilling psychologically.

But in all endeavors there is the risk of the individual or group obsessing and becoming addicted to the negative feelings that can occur alongside the positive ones. In the case of religion, dogma and a hierarchechal power structure can lead to some people becoming obsessed with said religion.

For Islam, there are extremists that see their religion as the only source of stability in their life, and the dogma created by the religion also engenders a certain theocracy that attracts those who crave power.
 
I don't expect that we would. I wonder if you feel his act was also directed at Muslim Americans. And would you condemn him for disrespecting them?
apdst said:
I don't expect them to, but, how would they feel if we started killing Muslims everytime someone in Afghanistan burned an American Flag? The moral of the story? They need to grow up and get with the program.




It almost sounds as if you're arguing that there should be something in place to keep Jones from doing this.
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Laila said:
It is when your actions directly has a link to the deaths of innocent individuals.
If your any kind of human being, you would feel guilt.
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I don't feel the least bit guilty about nuking japan after pearl harbor. I don't feel the least bit guilty about flattening Berlin after Germany attacked britian.

Yes, many die for the actions of a few. It's how the world works. I've long said a couple of multi warhead ballistic missiles would send a real message to those ****ing ragheads that the us won't take any more of their **** and 500,000 will die for every attack on our nation. The next move would be on them. If we are attacked, then it was them that made the choice on the death of their fellow citizens. You don't blame a cop for the death of someone when they have been warned that if they pull a gun they will die along with anyone else near them.
 
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Sort of glad your not in charge...Nothing personal
dontworrybehappy said:
I don't feel the least bit guilty about nuking japan after pearl harbor. I don't feel the least bit guilty about flattening Berlin after Germany attacked britian.

Yes, many die for the actions of a few. It's how the world works.
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PeteEU said:
He is no man of god. He is as cold blooded as the murders in Afghanistan. He knew exactly what he was doing and what reaction there would be against it. He provoked the murders of Afghanistan and should stand trial for at least man-slaughter if not out right murder. Alternatively he should be extradited to Afghanistan or any Muslim nation who wants him and let them deal with his hatemongering.
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I suspect that if some Imam in Yemen had burned a bible that pastor's flock would not run around killing fellow christians in the US

that is the difference
most Muslims are good people Muslims have far more whacked out killers who do this sort of crap compared to the other major religions
 
dontworrybehappy said:
I don't feel the least bit guilty about nuking japan after pearl harbor. I don't feel the least bit guilty about flattening Berlin after Germany attacked britian.

Yes, many die for the actions of a few. It's how the world works. I've long said a couple of multi warhead ballistic missiles would send a real message to those ****ing ragheads that the us won't take any more of their **** and 500,000 will die for every attack on our nation. The next move would be on them. If we are attacked, then it was them that made the choice on the death of their fellow citizens. You don't blame a cop for the death of someone when they have been warned that if they pull a gun they will die along with anyone else near them.
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there is nothing wrong with killing people as long as the right people get killed

killing the wrong people tends to cause three times the problems as not killing those who need it
 
What Jones did was wrong, but he was within his legal rights and I support his right to burn a koran even if I don't agree with it. I'm sure these barbaric murderers burn US flags or at least support it, so how would they feel if people in America decided to murder Arabs based on what some idiots did thousands of miles away? Their minds are diseased and deranged and we can't put the blame on the pastor who acted in hatred. He was exercising his right to free speech, and in our country that means haters and morons are still allowed to have a voice that shouldn't be denied.
 
Councilman said:
Yes he is. Just as if you get into a cage with a Lion and poke it with a stick and get eaten.
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So you don't have a lot of practice writing metaphors and analogies that work. you should keep trying, someday you'll make sense.

A man having a little barbeque in Florida isn't responsible for crazy insane muslims across the ocean.

That's all there is to that.

First it makes you a real dumb-ass second it's not the lions fault because you knew it was a lion and Jones knew the result would be massive protests and he also knew that he was putting himself and other's lives at risk.
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Oh?

Was Jones bitten by a lion?

What Mayor Snorkum expects of animals shaped like human beings and having human DNA is human behavior. Murdering George because Jack said your girlfriend was ugly isn't rational behavior....it's not even irrational human behavior. It's insanity infecting animals.

Mayor Snorkum says that if the nuts in Islam are going to go on a rampage whenever a single Koran is burned that we need a national Koran Burning Day, at least once a week, just to see how long it is before the imaginary sane muslims in those countries start gettin tired of the animals they've been coddling and start doing something about it themselves.

He was told over and over again.
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Hopefully what he was told is that because he is an American he has the freedom to do as he wishes with his property and he is not going to be held responsible for the actions of crazy animals in foreign nations.

Because then they'd be telling him the truth.

Mayor Snorkum wants MORE Korans burned, publicly, to fry bacon, with the grease dripping down on the flames for that extra flavor.

Why aren't you people tired of coddling the animals?

He's a damn fool and will get his in the end. He is also a crook for taking the car for not burning the Koran knowing he would get to it later.
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Depends on what the specific and exact wording the agreement.

The real damn fools are the idiots coddling the crazies. At least Jones has a spine.
 
Mikeyy said:
Why do you keep expecting someone in Afghanistan to understand our notion of free speech?
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Who cares if they do or not?

Are the Little Enders going to attack because the US of A allows people the freedom to torch books of Islamic mythology? Certainly the Brobdinagians are getting seriously pissed with the incessant whining of the Lilliputians and their coddlers here in the States.

And again you ignore the point of Jones action by simply covering it with the free speech clause. There is more to this then his right to free speech. Nobody has asserted he didn't have a right. It is why he exercised it that is in question.
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There is nothing more to this than Jones' right to do as he wishes. And he exercised it to piss of animals. Big deal. Aghanistan isn't a zoo, there's no signs saying "Don't Tease The Animals". Since they're supposed to be people in Afhganistan, not animals, they need to control their crazies, if they don't wish to be killed by them. If they don't mind being killed by the crazies, then what's the problem?
 
Oh dear! Its the rapist fault because, the woman was dressing provocatively....Bull****

Political correctness, and faggotry mindset that we have to walk around on eggshell to try and avoid offending these "people" aka savages for fear of what they'll do.,,again bull****

We should get the **** out of A-stan and leave *these people* with their 4 goats, 3 wives, 2 teeth and 1 shoe

I dont believe it will be posible to peacefully coexist with Islam. So basically, **** 'em
 
ric27 said:
Oh dear! Its the rapist fault because, the woman was dressing provocatively....Bull****

Political correctness, and faggotry mindset that we have to walk around on eggshell to try and avoid offending these "people" aka savages for fear of what they'll do.,,again bull****

We should get the **** out of A-stan and leave *these people* with their 4 goats, 3 wives, 2 teeth and 1 shoe

I dont believe it will be posible to peacefully coexist with Islam. So basically, **** 'em
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I believe numerous empires and massive conquering armies throughout Afghanistan's 5000 year history, have tried to tame this country and to no avail, the U.S. will be no different.
 
Mayor Snorkum said:
So you don't have a lot of practice writing metaphors and analogies that work. you should keep trying, someday you'll make sense.

A man having a little barbeque in Florida isn't responsible for crazy insane muslims across the ocean.

That's all there is to that.



Oh?

Was Jones bitten by a lion?

What Mayor Snorkum expects of animals shaped like human beings and having human DNA is human behavior. Murdering George because Jack said your girlfriend was ugly isn't rational behavior....it's not even irrational human behavior. It's insanity infecting animals.

Mayor Snorkum says that if the nuts in Islam are going to go on a rampage whenever a single Koran is burned that we need a national Koran Burning Day, at least once a week, just to see how long it is before the imaginary sane muslims in those countries start gettin tired of the animals they've been coddling and start doing something about it themselves.



Hopefully what he was told is that because he is an American he has the freedom to do as he wishes with his property and he is not going to be held responsible for the actions of crazy animals in foreign nations.

Because then they'd be telling him the truth.

Mayor Snorkum wants MORE Korans burned, publicly, to fry bacon, with the grease dripping down on the flames for that extra flavor.

Why aren't you people tired of coddling the animals?



Depends on what the specific and exact wording the agreement.

The real damn fools are the idiots coddling the crazies. At least Jones has a spine.
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What? You need to go back to school and learn reading comprehension, and try to stick to the topic and back off the personal attacks. It smacks of Liberalism. What I wrote was right on.
 
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The Giant Noodle said:
These Muslims are insane! They act like drunk children that are hate-filled. People that worship Satan are better people than these Islamic animals!! They are barbarians! They killed 12 people because someone burned their book! 12 people DEAD... horribly murdered.... brutally murdered. Because of a book that was burned. Im all for nuking that whole area and wiping out these crazy people!



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I would personally like to kick"pastor" Jones' ass. I hope the taxpayers living in his town where the police are now having to kick up security on his scummy butt are outraged.
After General freaking Petraeus told this reverend-nut-case such actions might endanger our troops in Afghanistan, he waits a year and does a mock trial with a book burning and puts it up on YouTube fer chrissakes. :cuckoo: What the hell did he think would happen? That Muslim rednecks would all chant "peace!" and then sing Kumbaya?
And the community at large there in Florida were no help. The reverend of another church said he was shocked and that they had mistakenly chosen to "ignore" rather than give the guy any more publicity. I can understand that, but there is a book title (Tolstoy) that guides such dilemmas these other churches were in:
Ignore a Fire and it Spreads.
 
Salty said:
I would personally like to kick"pastor" Jones' ass.
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Pastor had the right. Period....Like it not...and when we start regulating freedoms due to how others may react, then we have lost our freedom completely.

This may also shock you - There will be more Terry Jones and others that will continue to provoke or pull anti-Islam stunts

Are you also going to kick their asses? How many more asses will you have to kick?

100, 1000, 10,000...a million asses?....Thats a lot of ass
 
ric27 said:
Pastor had the right. Period....Like it not...and when we start regulating freedoms due to how others may react, then we have lost our freedom completely.

This may also shock you - There will be more Terry Jones and others that will continue to provoke or pull anti-Islam stunts

Are you also going to kick their asses? How many more asses will you have to kick?

100, 1000, 10,000...a million asses?....Thats a lot of ass
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Look I don't know your beef or agenda. I just got here, but anyone with a brain can see what the rev did was incite a riot. Yes. With the communication technology we have today, and the media looking for a sensationalist story, we have to watch what we say and do. Not because it's against any government laws. Because it's against the laws of common sense.
 
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