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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Yes, you and Gardener have been pedalling this idea for some time now. I'd like to know what the difference is.
    You don't know the difference between the action of an individual and the action of a government?

    Hmmm. Well if I tell my 12 year old son he is grounded for a week it is quite different from the government passing a law that says all 12 year old males are grounded for a week. Does that help?
    Censorship is when someone wish to prevent or dissuade others from watching, hearing or reading material they deem inappropriate.
    Yes, I agree. That's what parents and governments often do.

    That is what the Rev and his cohorts were doing with 'Burn the Koran Day'.
    No, they were not. They were not trying to ban the Koran.
    It makes no difference that they didn't do it officially.
    But of course it does.
    Many, many book-burnings (most of those during the Inquisition, for example) were not carried out by the government of the day but by self-appointed moral guardians. It was censorship then and is censorship today.
    Are you saying that this Florida preacher is the equivalent of the Spanish, or some other, inquisition? Advanced hyperbole doesn't advance your argument whatsoever, In fact it only lends to the ongoing hysteria swirling about an obscure American citizen who used his First Amendment rights.

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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    The theme is a promotion of hate and condemnation. You know, like Jesus taught us.
    Yes, "Go ye forth and slay all of the Muslims, or ye shall have endless war." I'm sure there must be something like that somewhere in the Bible. Either that, or ric is wrong. That couldn't be, could it?
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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Yes, "Go ye forth and slay all of the Muslims, or ye shall have endless war." I'm sure there must be something like that somewhere in the Bible. Either that, or ric is wrong. That couldn't be, could it?
    It just amazes me. Muhammad was a protestor, phrophet, judge, general, and a soveriegn. Today's Muslims everywhere on the spectrum has a lot of leeway when it comes to living in the example of the prophet. How quickly Christians forget to live in the example of their prophet as they applaud the burning of Qur'ans, seek revenge, and voice for wars.

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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    It just amazes me. Muhammad was a protestor, phrophet, judge, general, and a soveriegn. Today's Muslims everywhere on the spectrum has a lot of leeway when it comes to living in the example of the prophet. How quickly Christians forget to live in the example of their prophet as they applaud the burning of Qur'ans, seek revenge, and voice for wars.
    It could be that there are a lot more people calling themselves Christians than there are actually trying to live the philosophy that Christ preached.
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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    It just amazes me. Muhammad was a protester, phrophet, judge, general, and a soveriegn. Today's Muslims everywhere on the spectrum has a lot of leeway when it comes to living in the example of the prophet. How quickly Christians forget to live in the example of their prophet as they applaud the burning of Qur'ans, seek revenge, and voice for wars.
    Let's not forget he was also a pedophile, a warmonger and wanted to kill those who wouldn't sign on to Islam..

    But as to his being 'a prophet', here are some definitions.

    1. A person who speaks by divine inspiration or as the interpreter through whom the will of a god is expressed.
    2. A person gifted with profound moral insight and exceptional powers of expression.
    3. A predictor; a soothsayer.
    4. The chief spokesperson of a movement or cause.

    I'd give him number 4.

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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    It could be that there are a lot more people calling themselves Christians than there are actually trying to live the philosophy that Christ preached.
    And many who are trying to live the philosophy Christ preached, or who are equally influenced by his teachings, without calling themselves Christian.

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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    And many who are trying to live the philosophy Christ preached, or who are equally influenced by his teachings, without calling themselves Christian.
    You finally posted something I can agree with.
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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Yes, "Go ye forth and slay all of the Muslims, or ye shall have endless war." I'm sure there must be something like that somewhere in the Bible. Either that, or ric is wrong. That couldn't be, could it?
    Compare Muslim countries to non-Muslim countries. Where do you see the killing of those of different faiths? Muslim countries. Where are churches and synagogues burned down? Muslim countries. Where are mosques burned down? ?? ???? That's right, none. Where is it a death sentence to change your religion? Muslim countries.

    Who have committed acts of terrorism on the basis of their religion in the last 40 years? Muslims. The majority of Muslims haven't attacked a non-Muslim country or people simply because they can't get to them. But that doesn't mean they don't support Jihad. The man who doesn't go has no problem putting some money in the plate to pay for those who do. Or he sends his son. The list goes on and on....

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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You don't know the difference between the action of an individual and the action of a government?
    I see you are either unable or unwilling to define that difference.
    Hmmm. Well if I tell my 12 year old son he is grounded for a week it is quite different from the government passing a law that says all 12 year old males are grounded for a week. Does that help?
    Well, you beating your son for staying out all night and a policeman beating him for doing so shows a lot of similarity.
    No, they were not. They were not trying to ban the Koran.
    Did you ask them? I think that's precisely what they'd like to see happen.

    Are you saying that this Florida preacher is the equivalent of the Spanish, or some other, inquisition? Advanced hyperbole doesn't advance your argument whatsoever, In fact it only lends to the ongoing hysteria swirling about an obscure American citizen who used his First Amendment rights.
    Firstly, it was not just one individual, witness the tide of support he received, the tide of support for other similar activities and the tide of support for hounding law-abiding Moslem who wish to build their communities a mosque. Secondly, I have no doubt that, but for the efforts of generations of liberal Americans upholding and cherishing those very constitutional rights, the likes of the Rev. Jones would crush any dissenters to his extremist religious orthodoxy.
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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    It just amazes me. Muhammad was a protestor, phrophet, judge, general, and a soveriegn. Today's Muslims everywhere on the spectrum has a lot of leeway when it comes to living in the example of the prophet. How quickly Christians forget to live in the example of their prophet as they applaud the burning of Qur'ans, seek revenge, and voice for wars.
    How quickly Christians...lol

    Discussion of Islam and the problem does not require discussion of, or even mention of any other religion. Whatever similarities appear to be there are immaterial when taken in context with the differences not only in religion, but in the culture. So bringing up any other belief system is counter productive and this thread, like every other one, will devolve into bashing.

    The problem presented by Islam is very complex and consequently, any solution will be too

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