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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    In regards to Jones and the people in Afganistan who committed those murders, we see the example of religious extremism. Extremists in all theirs forms are dangerous, in my opinion. Being an adherant of a religion is not a bad thing, and in most cases shows a concern for community and a need for introspection that can be deeply fullfilling psychologically.

    But in all endeavors there is the risk of the individual or group obsessing and becoming addicted to the negative feelings that can occur alongside the positive ones. In the case of religion, dogma and a hierarchechal power structure can lead to some people becoming obsessed with said religion.

    For Islam, there are extremists that see their religion as the only source of stability in their life, and the dogma created by the religion also engenders a certain theocracy that attracts those who crave power.
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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    I don't expect that we would. I wonder if you feel his act was also directed at Muslim Americans. And would you condemn him for disrespecting them?
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I don't expect them to, but, how would they feel if we started killing Muslims everytime someone in Afghanistan burned an American Flag? The moral of the story? They need to grow up and get with the program.




    It almost sounds as if you're arguing that there should be something in place to keep Jones from doing this.

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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    It is when your actions directly has a link to the deaths of innocent individuals.
    If your any kind of human being, you would feel guilt.
    I don't feel the least bit guilty about nuking japan after pearl harbor. I don't feel the least bit guilty about flattening Berlin after Germany attacked britian.

    Yes, many die for the actions of a few. It's how the world works. I've long said a couple of multi warhead ballistic missiles would send a real message to those ****ing ragheads that the us won't take any more of their **** and 500,000 will die for every attack on our nation. The next move would be on them. If we are attacked, then it was them that made the choice on the death of their fellow citizens. You don't blame a cop for the death of someone when they have been warned that if they pull a gun they will die along with anyone else near them.
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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Sort of glad your not in charge...Nothing personal
    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    I don't feel the least bit guilty about nuking japan after pearl harbor. I don't feel the least bit guilty about flattening Berlin after Germany attacked britian.

    Yes, many die for the actions of a few. It's how the world works.

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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    He is no man of god. He is as cold blooded as the murders in Afghanistan. He knew exactly what he was doing and what reaction there would be against it. He provoked the murders of Afghanistan and should stand trial for at least man-slaughter if not out right murder. Alternatively he should be extradited to Afghanistan or any Muslim nation who wants him and let them deal with his hatemongering.
    I suspect that if some Imam in Yemen had burned a bible that pastor's flock would not run around killing fellow christians in the US

    that is the difference
    most Muslims are good people Muslims have far more whacked out killers who do this sort of crap compared to the other major religions



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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    I don't feel the least bit guilty about nuking japan after pearl harbor. I don't feel the least bit guilty about flattening Berlin after Germany attacked britian.

    Yes, many die for the actions of a few. It's how the world works. I've long said a couple of multi warhead ballistic missiles would send a real message to those ****ing ragheads that the us won't take any more of their **** and 500,000 will die for every attack on our nation. The next move would be on them. If we are attacked, then it was them that made the choice on the death of their fellow citizens. You don't blame a cop for the death of someone when they have been warned that if they pull a gun they will die along with anyone else near them.
    there is nothing wrong with killing people as long as the right people get killed

    killing the wrong people tends to cause three times the problems as not killing those who need it



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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    What Jones did was wrong, but he was within his legal rights and I support his right to burn a koran even if I don't agree with it. I'm sure these barbaric murderers burn US flags or at least support it, so how would they feel if people in America decided to murder Arabs based on what some idiots did thousands of miles away? Their minds are diseased and deranged and we can't put the blame on the pastor who acted in hatred. He was exercising his right to free speech, and in our country that means haters and morons are still allowed to have a voice that shouldn't be denied.
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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Yes he is. Just as if you get into a cage with a Lion and poke it with a stick and get eaten.
    So you don't have a lot of practice writing metaphors and analogies that work. you should keep trying, someday you'll make sense.

    A man having a little barbeque in Florida isn't responsible for crazy insane muslims across the ocean.

    That's all there is to that.

    First it makes you a real dumb-ass second it's not the lions fault because you knew it was a lion and Jones knew the result would be massive protests and he also knew that he was putting himself and other's lives at risk.
    Oh?

    Was Jones bitten by a lion?

    What Mayor Snorkum expects of animals shaped like human beings and having human DNA is human behavior. Murdering George because Jack said your girlfriend was ugly isn't rational behavior....it's not even irrational human behavior. It's insanity infecting animals.

    Mayor Snorkum says that if the nuts in Islam are going to go on a rampage whenever a single Koran is burned that we need a national Koran Burning Day, at least once a week, just to see how long it is before the imaginary sane muslims in those countries start gettin tired of the animals they've been coddling and start doing something about it themselves.

    He was told over and over again.
    Hopefully what he was told is that because he is an American he has the freedom to do as he wishes with his property and he is not going to be held responsible for the actions of crazy animals in foreign nations.

    Because then they'd be telling him the truth.

    Mayor Snorkum wants MORE Korans burned, publicly, to fry bacon, with the grease dripping down on the flames for that extra flavor.

    Why aren't you people tired of coddling the animals?

    He's a damn fool and will get his in the end. He is also a crook for taking the car for not burning the Koran knowing he would get to it later.
    Depends on what the specific and exact wording the agreement.

    The real damn fools are the idiots coddling the crazies. At least Jones has a spine.

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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeyy View Post
    Why do you keep expecting someone in Afghanistan to understand our notion of free speech?
    Who cares if they do or not?

    Are the Little Enders going to attack because the US of A allows people the freedom to torch books of Islamic mythology? Certainly the Brobdinagians are getting seriously pissed with the incessant whining of the Lilliputians and their coddlers here in the States.

    And again you ignore the point of Jones action by simply covering it with the free speech clause. There is more to this then his right to free speech. Nobody has asserted he didn't have a right. It is why he exercised it that is in question.
    There is nothing more to this than Jones' right to do as he wishes. And he exercised it to piss of animals. Big deal. Aghanistan isn't a zoo, there's no signs saying "Don't Tease The Animals". Since they're supposed to be people in Afhganistan, not animals, they need to control their crazies, if they don't wish to be killed by them. If they don't mind being killed by the crazies, then what's the problem?

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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Oh dear! Its the rapist fault because, the woman was dressing provocatively....Bull****

    Political correctness, and faggotry mindset that we have to walk around on eggshell to try and avoid offending these "people" aka savages for fear of what they'll do.,,again bull****

    We should get the **** out of A-stan and leave *these people* with their 4 goats, 3 wives, 2 teeth and 1 shoe

    I dont believe it will be posible to peacefully coexist with Islam. So basically, **** 'em

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