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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Mike - Capitulation/subjigation caused by fear is precisely what these murderous scoundrels are after.

    Maybe if we'd offed a few people when our flag was burned things would be different. Or if Christians suddenly become like rabies-stricken, blood seeking animals when the Bible was desecrated or any other numerous insults were leveled at Christianity.
    Well, we could lower ourselves to their level. Do you think that would be a good idea?
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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    What's the point of arguing that this guy is stupid, intolerant, and insensitive? the only people who are going to disagree with you are super extremist Christians and KKK... and i don't think we have much of those on this website.
    His actions are only a big deal because the Islams of the country decided to kill 12 innocent people because of it.
    It's not universally immoral to burn a Quran or a bible, while it is to kill innocent people and to try and silence free speech.

    they need to be taught about human rights, because now tolerating their immoral beliefs are clearly affecting us.
    imo he is guilty of seditious acts in a time of war. That's more than just freedom of speech.

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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by Salty View Post
    imo he is guilty of seditious acts in a time of war. That's more than just freedom of speech.
    In what way did he act to encourage Americans to rebel against the US government?

    You are aware that he cannot be guilty of any form of sedition in Afghanistan, right?

    Are you aware of the definition of the word "sedition"?

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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    If he, or anyone else, knew that Muslims would react the way they did then we know he would not have done it. Would you agree? He simply underestimated Islamic hatreds, despite all the previous evidence that it was out there. You'll tun on this guy now and another when the next terror attack occurs. 9/11 was the result of American imperialism, Danny Pearl was a result of Israels policy towards the Palestinians, and so on. The democracies, out of the new fear, will always blame the democracies.



    No, my friend, you're describing yourself here. You should be defending this fellow's right to free speech in a free country no matter how foolish a person he might be. That is what the American people have inherited, and at a great cost to many who have fought for that right.

    Now that same free speech must be defended against murderous terrorists and tyrants, but the fools and cowards among us would turn him over to the terrorists the first chance they got. That is why they will win and you will lose.
    Wrong.

    Now that we know the effectiveness of Koran torching has in creatin civil unrest among our enemies, we should implement a national program of voluntary weekly Koran burnings to foment civil discord in the streets of our enemies. This is war, we should use our enemy's weaknesses against them.

    And hell, a copy of the Koran only costs five bucks, if you can't get if for free from a local mosque. The National Burn a Koran on Saturday, Burn Two During Ramadan could be a killer cost effective program that could decimate the enemy.

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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    i think the title must be the pastor who killed 8 people in Afghanistan...

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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by ManofthPeephole View Post
    I still disagree because the decision is being forced through with coercion (so it isn't really a choice). It's like if Qaddafi passed a law guaranteeing free speech but sent a death squad to kill anyone that said something he didn't approve of. Under such a system your right would be nothing more than an academic exercise
    A decision is a decision regardless of what goes into making the decision. Plenty have decided to die for liberty before. You have the right and the choice to exercise that right knowing the consequences. Consequences do not eliminate the right, itself.
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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by soguks View Post
    i think the title must be the pastor who killed 8 people in Afghanistan...
    I would think not. The people killed in Afghanistan where killed by Muslim extremists. Get your facts straight.
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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I would think not. The people killed in Afghanistan where killed by Muslim extremists. Get your facts straight.
    the year 1998 the us military bombed two factories in Sudan after the terrorist attacks at two Us embassies in kenya and tanzania; but in those factories medicine and toys were being produced, unlike the claims by US that there were chemical weapons.

    the year 2001 terrorists attacked US and then US invaded Afghanistan,

    the year 2003 Us invaded Iraq by claiming there was nuks...the list continues....


    tell me who is mixing the apples and pears?

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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    A decision is a decision regardless of what goes into making the decision. Plenty have decided to die for liberty before. You have the right and the choice to exercise that right knowing the consequences. Consequences do not eliminate the right, itself.
    So basically if the government starts executing people for participating in free speech, you still view the right of free speech existing?

    Yes, that makes perfect sense

    Those rights don't actually exist unless you can exercise them without facing some form of threat
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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by soguks View Post
    the year 1998 the us military bombed two factories in Sudan after the terrorist attacks at two Us embassies in kenya and tanzania; but in those factories medicine and toys were being produced, unlike the claims by US that there were chemical weapons.

    the year 2001 terrorists attacked US and then US invaded Afghanistan,

    the year 2003 Us invaded Iraq by claiming there was nuks...the list continues....


    tell me who is mixing the apples and pears?
    You're attempting to distract from the issue

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