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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Again, I am NOT defending the radicals, but if people can't see how irresponsible Pastor Jones' actions were, well...I can't help you.

    As a veteran and former defender of hostile aggression against my nation and my fellow countrymen, I can only tell you that if I were fighting abroad to defend my country and I learned of one man or one group back home whose actions placed myself and my fellow comrades in arms further in harms way, I'd be pissed!!!



    You're asking a question to which I have no answer. But you can be sure that Pastor Jones just gave radical Islam exactly what they've been waiting for, that "gotcha moment", the ammunition they've been waiting for to kill in defense of their religion by virtue of saying, "See, America isn't such a tolerate nation of religious beliefs after all as they claim they are. They hate Muslims. Look what they did to our holy book?"
    You are offering ready made excuses to Islamists who will want to murder Americans, Canadians, or whoever they can get their hands on any time they might speak out against Islamism.. Good going.

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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by ManofthPeephole View Post
    Special needs kids represent solid examples of circumstances that are clearly different, hence it isn't logically inconsistent to approach both in separate ways. In your justification for applying your logic to certain certain circumstances, and not others, you cited your belief that the message was provocative. Simply amounting to you not liking it . Such isn't a solid circumstance for applying two separate sets of logic. Hence, to attempt to, is logical inconsistent and a clear example of special pleading

    Sorry if that goes over your head. i suggest additional schooling
    I like how you 1. Missed how the special needs example made sense. 2. Ignored the rest of my examples. Telling. The fact is, some arguments are situational. If you don't think my argument works for MLK, then great - I never brought him up, you did. But so far, you have not shown that it doesn't work for this situation, too bad.

    Let me lay it out clearly: 1. The Civil Rights Movement and this situation are two completely different situations. 2. If I am forced to pretend like they are the same thing, then I have already answered your question: 1. MLK = academics/policymakers who critique terrorism 2. Provoking a KKK member = Mr. Koran Burner.
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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    I'm endorsing common sense. If I were endorsing silencing speech, I would have argued that he should be jailed, which I'm not.

    I am arguing that he and others should accept his partial responsibility for the violence that has occurred.
    Why? He didnt do anything except burn a muslim bible. Its not the pastors fault that those muslims are evil pieces of dog ****. Those barbarians proved the pastor was correct to a degree. Im waiting to hear from the "good" muslims to bring the "bad" muslims to justice.
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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    If they did, then it wouldn't have happened. Your point?
    You can't impose standards on our right's to compensate for people who don't believe in them. These right's are universal, not localized for the U.S.

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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Why? He didnt do anything except burn a muslim bible. Its not the pastors fault that those muslims are evil pieces of dog ****. Those barbarians proved the pastor was correct to a degree. Im waiting to hear from the "good" muslims to bring the "bad" muslims to justice.
    No. He did something that General Petraeus warned him might put American lives in danger. He chose to be irresponsible.
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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    You can't impose standards on our right's to compensate for people who don't believe in them. These right's are universal, not localized for the U.S.
    True, if the Jihadis who perpetrated this atrocity believed in freedom of speech (or freedom of anything, probably), if they were rational people, then the Koran burning stunt wouldn't have set them off. But, they don't believe in freedom, they are nuts, and were known to be nuts before Reverend Bonkers decided to stage his silly stunt. That's the point. He deliberately set off a riot, and should be accountable for having done so. Why did he stage his absurd publicity stunt if not to set off a violent riot?
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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Why? He didnt do anything except burn a muslim bible. Its not the pastors fault that those muslims are evil pieces of dog ****. Those barbarians proved the pastor was correct to a degree. Im waiting to hear from the "good" muslims to bring the "bad" muslims to justice.
    He certainly proved his point, but when will others realize it?

    If they're willing to blame an obscure preacher in rural Florida for the hacking to death of 12 UN Workers on the other side of the world then their beliefs are no better than those who committed the act.

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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    The rev did nothing that muslims have done over and over...the only difference is in the reaction, theyre acting like the murderous animals they are and we accept their protests as their right.

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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    Yes, many liberals would say that by the time 12 killings per abortion were reached.
    Oh my, they have already started!
    Not sure what you mean.
    Are you saying that the threat of the murder of innocent women would/should be enough for liberals to say stop abortions? Sorry, but I doubt that would ever happen. Yet they are saying that the threat of murder or actual murder is a case for telling people they shouldn't exercise a right to burn a holybook. Both are cases of blackmail in my opinion and should be condemned.
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    Re: Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    The rev did nothing that muslims have done over and over...the only difference is in the reaction, theyre acting like the murderous animals they are and we accept their protests as their right.
    Umm...no. No one is acting like their protests are a right. People are acting like "why would you taunt murderers?"

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